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		steveg(at)nternet.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				My business partner in Oz who is looking for a good surveillance aircraft
 sent this to me as we were looking at one of the original AC560 E's VH CAU,
 to purchase for the mission.  Just a matter of interest to those of you that
 may have not seen it before.
 
  
 
 Steve Gilson
 
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		todd(at)hindmarsh.us Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Sent what?
 
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		steveg(at)nternet.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Here is the attachment again.  Only 380KB PDF article.  Don't know why it
 did not go through earlier.
 
 Steve G
 
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		amg(at)nc.rr.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Still nothing on my screen.
 
 Roland
 
 steve wrote:
 
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 Here is the attachment again.  Only 380KB PDF article.  Don't know why it
 did not go through earlier.
 
 Steve G
 
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		steveg(at)nternet.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Sorry guys.  Attaches but the list won't accept it I guess.  It is from Oz
 CASA regarding their look at the history of wing corrosion and failures in
 ACommanders.
 
 Steve G
 
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		cschuerm(at)cox.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				do not archive
 
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 ...nobody ever reads the instructions.....
 see: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm
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 Any enclosures that are posted to the List will automatically be
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 Please configure your Email application to send Plain Text
 Only, and disable any "Quoted Printable" or "HTML" encoding whenever
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 Because enclosures are stripped out of incoming posts to the List,
 the likelihood of getting a virus from the List is extremely small.
 If you do receive a message that appears to be from the List,
 and it does include a virus, it is very likely that it was sent
 *directly* to you from someone on the List who has a virus.  This is a
 specific kind of virus, and you should try to inform the sender, if
 possible.
 
 The best protection against viruses is a good virus protection
 program such as Norton Antivirus.  State of the art in virus protection
 today's world gives maximum protection with little or no negative impact 
 on the computer system.  You can't afford to be without a good virus 
       protection program these days.
 
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		barry.collman(at)air-brit Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Steve,
 
 If you copy the file to Nico, I'm sure he'll get something organised so those of 
 us who'd like to see it can gain access to it.
 
 Very Best Regards,
 Barry
 
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		Jerry Sprayberry
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Hi Barry:
 
 It's about 0152 over there, what do you do in the daytime?
 
 Regards to you,
 
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		nico(at)cybersuperstore.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				The list strips off any attachments.
 If you would send it to me directly, I will publish it on my website and
 reference it on the list.
 Nico
 
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		tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Steve,
 All attachments are stripped off when it is sent to the group.
 You can send to an individual or send it to Nico and he posts things  
 on his web site like photos and PDF's.
 
 By the way did you see the 685 that is for sale in Japan that has a  
 camera in it?
 It is listed in Trade-a-plane.  Japan to OZ is closer than coming  
 from the US.
 
 Tylor Hall
 
 On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:23 PM, steve wrote:
 
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  Here is the attachment again.  Only 380KB PDF article.  Don't know  
  why it
  did not go through earlier.
 
  Steve G
 
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		Skyhawkc-172
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				If you like, Post it on:
 twincommanderflyer.com
 it's easy, and the group can use it as a back-up for issues like this.
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 From: Tylor Hall <tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.net> 
 
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  Steve, 
  All attachments are stripped off when it is sent to the group. 
  You can send to an individual or send it to Nico and he posts things 
  on his web site like photos and PDF's. 
  
  By the way did you see the 685 that is for sale in Japan that has a 
  camera in it? 
  It is listed in Trade-a-plane. Japan to OZ is closer than coming 
  from the US. 
  
  Tylor Hall 
  
  On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:23 PM, steve wrote: 
  
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  > Here is the attachment again. Only 380KB PDF article. Don't know 
  > why it 
  > did not go through earlier. 
  > 
  > Steve G 
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		john(at)vormbaum.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				[rant]
 
 You know,
 
 These solicitous emails by someone whose email is SKYHAWK172 are getting 
 extremely tiresome. I seldom jump into the fray with so opinionated a 
 stance, but this really irks me.
 
 Not 60 days ago we (COMMANDER listees) had a conversation about how we have 
 a very small community to begin with; we mentioned how strong the Matronics 
 forum is, how Matt Dralle has stood by us for years (with nothing to gain 
 except the annual cost-covering good samaritan contribution) and how 
 dividing a community as small as ours could only hurt us in the long run. As 
 a group, and reply emails supported this, we decided that we would stick to 
 this forum for its simplicity, its proven knowledge base (hello Sir Barry, 
 Jimbob, Mason, Nico, Harry, Chris S. etc!), its widespread acceptance, and 
 its effectiveness. However, 1 in 10 messages on this list are from Joe 
 Skyhawk attempting to lure users away. I'm sick of it.
 
 Take a hike, Joe. If we want a different forum, WE'LL solicit YOU. If you 
 need friends, there are probably 35,000 Chickenhawk pilots that you could 
 lure to another site.
 
 /John
 
 PS: I've been to Joe Skyhawk's site. Nothing there, really. Add to that the 
 fact that he needs to keep posting questions HERE to get answers to the 
 basics, and it makes me wonder why someone with obviously so little 
 Commander knowledge/experience (read: interest) feels the need to create his 
 own portal. Is there a profit motive?
 
 PPS: We need Joe Skyhawk even less, now, since Matt has created an online 
 forum version of our list....that *automatically* posts these emails.
 
 [/rant]
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		barry.collman(at)air-brit Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Sleep!!!
 
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		steveg(at)nternet.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Tylor,
 
 OK.  No problem.  Sent to Nico and a few others off list.
 
 I recently ferried a Bonanza back from Santo Domingo Dom Rep for a friend
 and while there got pics of a few ACommanders sitting idly on the side of
 the Herrera airport.  Will get them developed this weekend and send to NICO.
 
 Steve
 
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		tfisher(at)commandergroup Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:52 am    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				Skyhawk.
 In case you missed it we all (the ones who expressed their preferences)
 voted to keep our forum in one place (HERE).
 The constant suggestions from you (or someone from your Email address)
 indicates that you do not care what we within this forum want, I question
 your motives as to why you keep prodding members here to move/use your site.
 Give it up, please.
 
 Tom F.
 
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		tfisher(at)commandergroup Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				I sent my response before I even saw this Email, great minds think alike.
 Tom F.
 
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		deneals
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Interesting from Oz | 
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				On 1/20/06 2:04 AM, "John Vormbaum" <john(at)vormbaum.com> wrote:
 
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  Take a hike, Joe. If we want a different forum, WE'LL solicit YOU. If you
  need friends, there are probably 35,000 Chickenhawk pilots that you could
  lure to another site.
 
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 I totally agree with John's rant.  A rant is good every now and again!
  
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 St. Louis, Missouri   USA
 
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