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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Hinge less ailerons Reply with quote

John

Hinge vs. no hinge is going to be a personal preference. I have the hinge less design on my HD. For the most part they are a non-issue. Simple design for the builder, and they work well in flight. There is just about no chance of them failing in your lifetime and if they did, you would have lots of warning. It would take a long time for a crack to propagate far enough to be an inflight problem.

There have only been a couple of times when I had thought it would be better to have the hinge. Strong crosswind takeoffs and landings is one. You normally start out with full aileron, so you have to lean on the stick a little harder than you would if you had the hinge. It's not really a big deal. You know you have to pull a little harder on the stick, so you do it. The other was when I made my emergency landing in a field. It would have been nice to pull off the ailerons just to help protect them better when we trailed the plane back to my airport.

Bottom line for me, I would not change them out now. And if I were building new wings, I still think I would still go hinge less.

Randy Stout
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Hinge less ailerons Reply with quote

Just playing with you, Your analogy will0 probably be correct and I will look to see more Corvairs in the sky.0 Smile

In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:34:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,0 admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com writes:
0 OH NO, you did NOT just start that up again did you?! : ) Oh, and for0 what it's worth, you'll get as much for a well built XL with a Corvair as0you0 would for a Jab, minus the difference in engine costs. Which0 means....YOU'LL MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT WHEN YOU SELL A CORVAIR POWERED PLANE AS0 YOU WILL WHEN YOU SELL A JABIRU POWERED PLANE (give or take a bit.) 0
That ten thousand dollar difference in price is easily0 made up in the fact that it cost thousands less to get it in the air. 0 Oh, not to mention the fact that some people swear by them, not at them. 0 One more time as a group..."TO EACH THEIR0 OWN!"

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You are installing a Corvair engine and are0 worried about resale for the aileron hinges????


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Hinge less ailerons Reply with quote

Hello Craig,

No it was not that way, this is (as I remember reading) the correct one:

Once several thousands of bending cycles where done with no problem, they stoped the test and made a little cut in the hinge area,
From that little cut, cycles later a little crack started to develope (as spectred), a stop hole was drilled and the crack stoped there. the test continued successfully all the cycles planned with no farther problem.

I am convinced and will use it in my XL wings.

Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico in a 701 912S
Building a 601 XL

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Zenith actually did a life test with a motor flexing a sample. It went tens
of thousands of cycles before short cracks appeared at the ends. I think
they then drilled two stop holes and continued the test. You will die of old
age before this is a real problem.

-- Craig


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Hinge less ailerons Reply with quote

You bet your bippy! While I myself am not a Corvair guy, it is a nice0 option for many. Just another reason I predict that the Zodiac will hold its own0 against the RV-12.

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