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sjhdcl(at)kingston.net
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 Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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I'm looking for a professional painter for my RV-7A. Not only am I
looking for a painter but someone who is willing to put a little elbow
grease into the fiberglass and provide a show quality job.
I'm will have little opportunity to fly my aircraft between Nov 2006 and
Feb 2007 and therefore was wondering if anybody knew someone that could
paint the airplane during this time.
My number one choice would be GLO Custom but I beleive the timing would be
too tight for them.
Any other suggestions? The airplane is currently near Toronto but I'm
willing to fly it anywhere in Canada/US.
Steve
RV7A
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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Steve, take a look at your local auto body shop. If you have one that
specializes in antique or custom cars ..... they're usually better. You
can probably get a guy to come to the airport to do the fine work ....
and the FG too. You only have to remove the wings and put it on a tilt
bed trailer to get it there. Just a thought!
Linn
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sjhdcl(at)kingston.net wrote:
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I'm looking for a professional painter for my RV-7A. Not only am I
looking for a painter but someone who is willing to put a little elbow
grease into the fiberglass and provide a show quality job.
I'm will have little opportunity to fly my aircraft between Nov 2006 and
Feb 2007 and therefore was wondering if anybody knew someone that could
paint the airplane during this time.
My number one choice would be GLO Custom but I beleive the timing would be
too tight for them.
Any other suggestions? The airplane is currently near Toronto but I'm
willing to fly it anywhere in Canada/US.
Steve
RV7A
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steve(at)newtech.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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Be careful with auto body shop people that haven't worked on aluminum,
EPOXY reinforced fiberglass, etc. The first thing an auto bodyman will
pick up when working on your fiberglass is polyester body filler
"Bondo". Bondo over alodined aluminum is OK but polyester body filler
doesn't bond to epoxy "worth a crap" (technical term). I know people
will report that it works fine for them but just wait, flexing and
vibration will eventually cause the bond to give way and then you have a
crack in your beautiful show finish. Van's uses a mix of epoxy
reinforced and polyester resin reinforced parts. Generally, if it is
gel coated it is polyester resin and OK to use Bondo on. If the finish
is clear resin, i.e. cowling, then don't go near it with polyester body
filler, use epoxy based fiber-Fil.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, ready to finish rivet the fuselage back together
And yes, I have painted an RV-8
linn Walters wrote:
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Steve, take a look at your local auto body shop. If you have one that
specializes in antique or custom cars ..... they're usually better.
You can probably get a guy to come to the airport to do the fine work
.... and the FG too. You only have to remove the wings and put it on
a tilt bed trailer to get it there. Just a thought!
Linn
do not archive
sjhdcl(at)kingston.net wrote:
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> I'm looking for a professional painter for my RV-7A. Not only am I
> looking for a painter but someone who is willing to put a little elbow
> grease into the fiberglass and provide a show quality job.
>
> I'm will have little opportunity to fly my aircraft between Nov 2006 and
> Feb 2007 and therefore was wondering if anybody knew someone that could
> paint the airplane during this time.
>
> My number one choice would be GLO Custom but I beleive the timing
> would be
> too tight for them.
>
> Any other suggestions? The airplane is currently near Toronto but I'm
> willing to fly it anywhere in Canada/US.
>
> Steve
> RV7A
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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Very good points. And highly technical too!  There's good shops
and bad, so go see some of their work too. The feedback I get from
folks that went to an aircraft paint facility isn't very good. They're
really optomists. Their ability to schedule appears to be non-existent.
I know that there must be some shops out there that are really good
(and really pricey) which is why the auto body places are so tempting.
The points Steve made are valid no matter who does the work ..... so
choose your path carefully.
Linn
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Steve Eberhart wrote:
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Be careful with auto body shop people that haven't worked on aluminum,
EPOXY reinforced fiberglass, etc. The first thing an auto bodyman
will pick up when working on your fiberglass is polyester body filler
"Bondo". Bondo over alodined aluminum is OK but polyester body filler
doesn't bond to epoxy "worth a crap" (technical term). I know people
will report that it works fine for them but just wait, flexing and
vibration will eventually cause the bond to give way and then you have
a crack in your beautiful show finish. Van's uses a mix of epoxy
reinforced and polyester resin reinforced parts. Generally, if it is
gel coated it is polyester resin and OK to use Bondo on. If the
finish is clear resin, i.e. cowling, then don't go near it with
polyester body filler, use epoxy based fiber-Fil.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, ready to finish rivet the fuselage back together
And yes, I have painted an RV-8
linn Walters wrote:
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> Steve, take a look at your local auto body shop. If you have one
> that specializes in antique or custom cars ..... they're usually
> better. You can probably get a guy to come to the airport to do the
> fine work .... and the FG too. You only have to remove the wings and
> put it on a tilt bed trailer to get it there. Just a thought!
> Linn
> do not archive
>
> sjhdcl(at)kingston.net wrote:
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>> I'm looking for a professional painter for my RV-7A. Not only am I
>> looking for a painter but someone who is willing to put a little elbow
>> grease into the fiberglass and provide a show quality job.
>>
>> I'm will have little opportunity to fly my aircraft between Nov 2006
>> and
>> Feb 2007 and therefore was wondering if anybody knew someone that could
>> paint the airplane during this time.
>>
>> My number one choice would be GLO Custom but I beleive the timing
>> would be
>> too tight for them.
>>
>> Any other suggestions? The airplane is currently near Toronto but I'm
>> willing to fly it anywhere in Canada/US.
>>
>> Steve
>> RV7A
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Mark Phillips in TN
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truflite(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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I have been involved with RC aircraft for 30 years. I
have used both polyester and epoxy. Polyester 1.
never fully cures, it is in a years long curing
process. As time goes on, it becomes more brittle and
will crack from vibration, heat, cold or impact. 2.
will never laminate permanently to epoxy. It will
delaminate, it just a matter of when and when is a
short period of time.
Epoxy will be more resiliant in all enviroments.
Check out West System Epoxy. You will get an
education.
Dave
--- Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com> wrote:
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<steve(at)newtech.com>
Be careful with auto body shop people that haven't
worked on aluminum,
EPOXY reinforced fiberglass, etc. The first thing
an auto bodyman will
pick up when working on your fiberglass is polyester
body filler
"Bondo". Bondo over alodined aluminum is OK but
polyester body filler
doesn't bond to epoxy "worth a crap" (technical
term). I know people
will report that it works fine for them but just
wait, flexing and
vibration will eventually cause the bond to give way
and then you have a
crack in your beautiful show finish. Van's uses a
mix of epoxy
reinforced and polyester resin reinforced parts.
Generally, if it is
gel coated it is polyester resin and OK to use Bondo
on. If the finish
is clear resin, i.e. cowling, then don't go near it
with polyester body
filler, use epoxy based fiber-Fil.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, ready to finish rivet the fuselage back
together
And yes, I have painted an RV-8
linn Walters wrote:
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<pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>
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> Steve, take a look at your local auto body shop.
If you have one that
> specializes in antique or custom cars .....
they're usually better.
> You can probably get a guy to come to the airport
to do the fine work
> .... and the FG too. You only have to remove the
wings and put it on
> a tilt bed trailer to get it there. Just a
thought!
> Linn
> do not archive
>
> sjhdcl(at)kingston.net wrote:
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sjhdcl(at)kingston.net
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>> I'm looking for a professional painter for my
RV-7A. Not only am I
>> looking for a painter but someone who is willing
to put a little elbow
>> grease into the fiberglass and provide a show
quality job.
>>
>> I'm will have little opportunity to fly my
aircraft between Nov 2006 and
>> Feb 2007 and therefore was wondering if anybody
knew someone that could
>> paint the airplane during this time.
>>
>> My number one choice would be GLO Custom but I
beleive the timing
>> would be
>> too tight for them.
>>
>> Any other suggestions? The airplane is currently
near Toronto but I'm
>> willing to fly it anywhere in Canada/US.
>>
>> Steve
>> RV7A
>
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sarg314(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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I used West to do my tail fairing. It also makes a dry micro which
sands very well. But an RC modeller/varieze builder I know recommended
I try the MGS stuff from Aircraft Spruce. It has better high temp
tolerance than most epoxies and, since it has a fast and a slow catalyst
which can be mixed together, you can adjust the working time over a
broad range. This is useful in a hot climate. I made my cooling plenum
from it. It also has a pretty low viscosity when you mix it and seems
to wet out the cloth very well.
My main point: It seems much, much stronger than West, especially when
warm. Not good for making dry micro filler because it is so tough that
it is too hard to sand. I finished my cowling with it and now use it on
everything. I keep some West around to use to make filler.
Dave Nellis wrote:
| Quote: | Epoxy will be more resiliant in all enviroments.
Check out West System Epoxy. You will get an
education.
Dave
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Dale Ensing
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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Where is the painter located in Alabama please? And the name of company?0
Thanks
Dale Ensing
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Mark Phillips in TN
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: Painter/Fiberglasser wanted |
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Tuscaloosa (TCL). Name is Bobby Potts, phone 205.333.3116 (business). If that number doesn't work, contact me off-list as I have his cell # and would be happy to tell you more.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT the painter who previously occupied this same location and stole a whole lot of money from several builders. Please review all of my website entries for the whole story on Tuscaloosa Interiors
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5270
At the top of each page click >>Next entry>> for next page- click on fotos for larger view and visit Doug Reeves VansAirForce site for a review I wrote. (click "Alabama")
http://www.vansairforce.net/paint.htm
Mark do not archive
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