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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

I'm trying to install my Advanced Flight Systems fuel totalizer
between the fuel controller and the distribution block. The
hoses are AN4 and the totalizer has #6 pipe fittings - so I
think that should be AN816-4-6D. Neither Spruce nor Wicks
lists them - any leads on where I can get it ?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Maybe try http://www.bonacoinc.com. They've done some hoses for me and
stock some wacky fittings.

)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1034 hours)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Thx, but unfortunately no go ...

Looks like an AN912-2D bushing combined with an AN816-4-4D
nipple is the only way to go ...

g

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Maybe try http://www.bonacoinc.com. They've done some hoses for me and
stock some wacky fittings.

)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1034 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Gerry,

Not in aluminum, but plated steel is available:

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3250

3250-06-04S 3/8 NPT Male to 4AN Male Steel Adapter $2.99 In Stock

Chris Heitman

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

At 01:59 PM 8/16/2006, you wrote:
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--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf(at)gerf.com>


I'm trying to install my Advanced Flight Systems fuel totalizer
between the fuel controller and the distribution block. The
hoses are AN4 and the totalizer has #6 pipe fittings - so I
think that should be AN816-4-6D. Neither Spruce nor Wicks
lists them - any leads on where I can get it ?

__g__

Gerry,
I'm a bit confused by your question. By definition, an AN816 fitting is AN male tubing (flare) on one end and male pipe thread (NPT) on the other. You have an AN4 hose, so you need #4 tube fitting on one end. What do you mean by #6 pipe fitting? Pipe fitting is either 1/16", 1/8", 1/4", 3/8" or 1/2" NPT or NPT. Do you need 1/4" NPT or 3/8" NPT?
Charlie Kuss
PS, Why would a fuel line for an RV only be AN4? [quote][b]


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Charlie,

Pretty sure Gerry's transducer has 1/4" NPT female "ports" on it.

On an injected 360, despite the fuel supply hose being a -6, the metered fuel line (servo to flow divider) is just a -4...at least on every installation I've ever seen.

)_( Dan
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Gerry, the best way to deal with this IMO is to make a 90 deg. fitting by welding a 1/8" NPT pipe nipple to a 1/4" NPT pipe nipple as shown in the attached image. I occasionally fly this F1, it has the AFS system and the fuel flow readings are rock-solid. The flow transducer was moved here from a different location in the center tunnel near the boost pump. The flow transducer did not work well near the boost pump. Note that a small bracket was made to support the flowscan transducer.

[img]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/BobJ/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/img][img]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/BobJ/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg[/img][img]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/BobJ/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-2.jpg[/img] [img]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/BobJ/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-3.jpg[/img][img]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/BobJ/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-4.jpg[/img][img]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/BobJ/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-5.jpg[/img] Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.

On 8/16/06, Gerry Filby <gerf(at)gerf.com (gerf(at)gerf.com)> wrote:[quote] --> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf(at)gerf.com (gerf(at)gerf.com)>
I'm trying to install my Advanced Flight Systems fuel totalizer
between the fuel controller and the distribution block. The
hoses are AN4 and the totalizer has #6 pipe fittings - so I
think that should be AN816-4-6D. Neither Spruce nor Wicks
lists them - any leads on where I can get it ?

__g__

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:50 am    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Dan,
Exactly! #6 implies 3/8" in regards to AN tubing. However, 3/8" NPT is huge. My transducer is also 1/4" NPT. I figured that he was confusing definitions.
Charlie Kuss

---- Dan Checkoway <dan(at)rvproject.com> wrote:
[quote] Charlie,

Pretty sure Gerry's transducer has 1/4" NPT female "ports" on it.

On an injected 360, despite the fuel supply hose being a -6, the metered fuel line (servo to flow divider) is just a -4...at least on every installation I've ever seen.

)_( Dan
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Thanks all for your comments - Dan is right about the fittings
between the fuel controller and divider (thanks for the
correcting the nomenclature Dan) the tubing is terminated with
-4 flare fittings. However, the transducer I have (a red brick
about 1 1/2" cubed), I'm pretty sure has 3/8 NPT female pipe
fittings (I need to double check this tonight when I get to the
hangar). I think the intent of the manufacturer of the
transducer was that it would generally go between the high
pressure side of the engine driven fuel pump and the fuel
controller - that's a -6 size hose. Hence the need to reduce
the size from a -6 to a -4.

Hopefully I haven't been spinning everyone's wheels ... report
back tomorrow.

Thanks all again.

g

[quote]


Dan,
Exactly! #6 implies 3/8" in regards to AN tubing. However,
3/8" NPT is huge. My transducer is also 1/4" NPT. I figured that
he was confusing definitions.
Charlie Kuss

---- Dan Checkoway <dan(at)rvproject.com> wrote:
> Charlie,
>
> Pretty sure Gerry's transducer has 1/4" NPT female "ports" on it.
>
> On an injected 360, despite the fuel supply hose being a -6, the metered fuel line (servo to flow divider) is just a -4...at least on every installation I've ever seen.
>
> )_( Dan
> do not archive
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Looking for AN816-4-6D Reply with quote

Here's a picture of the transducer. It does indeed have -6
pipe fittings. The fitting in the foreground is -4. Phew,
thought I was losing it.

http://www.gerf.com/images/fuel_flow.jpg

g

[quote]



Thanks all for your comments - Dan is right about the fittings
between the fuel controller and divider (thanks for the
correcting the nomenclature Dan) the tubing is terminated with
-4 flare fittings. However, the transducer I have (a red brick
about 1 1/2" cubed), I'm pretty sure has 3/8 NPT female pipe
fittings (I need to double check this tonight when I get to the
hangar). I think the intent of the manufacturer of the
transducer was that it would generally go between the high
pressure side of the engine driven fuel pump and the fuel
controller - that's a -6 size hose. Hence the need to reduce
the size from a -6 to a -4.

Hopefully I haven't been spinning everyone's wheels ... report
back tomorrow.

Thanks all again.

g

>
>
>
> Dan,
> Exactly! #6 implies 3/8" in regards to AN tubing. However,
> 3/8" NPT is huge. My transducer is also 1/4" NPT. I figured that
> he was confusing definitions.
> Charlie Kuss
>
> ---- Dan Checkoway <dan(at)rvproject.com> wrote:
> > Charlie,
> >
> > Pretty sure Gerry's transducer has 1/4" NPT female "ports" on it.
> >
> > On an injected 360, despite the fuel supply hose being a -6, the metered fuel line (servo to flow divider) is just a -4...at least on every installation I've ever seen.
> >
> > )_( Dan
> > do not archive
> > ---


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