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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

I could use some feedback from the list on whether to build an RV7 with a 160 HP engine;
or an RV9 with a 160 HP engine.

With the RV7 i would be at the bottom of the engine list but able to move up... with the RV9 i would be at the top.

are there any other significant differences or issues that i should be looking at to make this choice?

thx in adv.

jp

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

160 hp will power either aircraft just fine. The question is whether you want to trade the more docile behavior of the -9 for the ability to do aerobatics in the -7.

That's what it all boils down to.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

Well Jim, it depends a lot on what kind of flying you plan to do. Are
you more of a weekend VFR flyer? Or, will you be flying IFR and making
long trips? Do you want to fly acro or formation? What kind of strip
will you be based at? What is your current level of experience? These
are all questions which will help guide your choice.

As far as moving up to a bigger engine- yes, it can and has been done,
but it is a lot of work, more than just bolting a new engine on. If you
ever plan to move up to a bigger engine, you might want to think about
doing that engine initially.

Jeff Point
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

Jim,

I would seem to me that the RV-7 and RV-9 has two different missions. The RV-9 has NO aerobatic capabilities while the RV-7 has some.
If you don't want to go upside down ever, then RV-9 else RV-7.

Tom
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

At 12:05 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote:
Quote:
I could use some feedback from the list on whether to build an RV7 with a
160 HP engine;
or an RV9 with a 160 HP engine.

With the RV7 i would be at the bottom of the engine list but able to move
up... with the RV9 i would be at the top.

are there any other significant differences or issues that i should be
looking at to make this choice?

Sounds like you are building around an engine. Personally I suggest
the largest (or close) engine that the manufacturer/designer approves.

Thus for a -7 I would go no lower than 180 hp. Some will disagree with
my view but because I live at 7000' and fly into the mountains I want
horsepower. I tell anyone looking to buy a completed RV to not
even consider one less than 180 HP.

Is a -9 with 160 HP more marketable than a -7 with 160 HP? I have
no idea.

Ron Lee

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

neither, split the diff and get the 8.

[quote]-------------- Original message --------------
From: Ron Lee <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>

[quote] --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee

At 12:05 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote:
>I could use some feedback from the list on whether to build an RV7 with a
>160 HP engine;
>or an RV9 with a 160 HP engine.
>
>With the RV7 i would be at the bottom of the engine list but able to move
>up... with the RV9 i would be at the top.
>
>are there any other significant differences or issues that i should be
>looking at to make this choice?

Sounds like you are building around an engine. Personally I suggest
the largest (or close) engine that the manufacturer/designer approves.

Thus for a -7 I would go no lower than 180 hp. S the W [quote][b]


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

If you want a long distance cross-country IFR capable airplane go with the
9. If you want aerobatics go with the 7.

For IFR I recommend at least a wing leveler, and for lots of hard IFR the
top of the line autopilot that will do holding patterns, etc.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback... i know it is all common sense and i've heard most of it before... but is has helped me clarify my decision to hear back from you guys... who would know any better than this group?

Onward and upward.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

As a long distance cross-country flyer, I have 2 words for you:

FUEL CAPACITY

I'm not even gonna beat my chest about acro or structure or sportiness or
even top speed. Let's just consider fuel.

Say you put the same O-320 in both an RV-7[A] and an RV-9[A]. 6 more
gallons = another HOUR of flying. Somebody mentioned "long distance
cross-country." I can't help equating fuel capacity to range, all else
being equal.

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)_( Dan
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

Jim,

If you're worried about the -7 being more difficult to fly, don't.  I was 53 years old when I started taking flying lessons, and am now 62. I had about 550 hours when I flew the RV for the first time. While I don't really recommend it, I did not have any transition training.  I had a C-150 then a Grumman AA1C. The Grumman was about the same size as the RV, but the RV is much easier to fly and land. While the Grumman was good experience, I think I could have gone right from the 150 to the RV-7A with a few hours of transition training. Personally, I wouldn't go with the -9 for its more docile flying habits, the -7 is plenty docile enough!  I would even say that the -7A lands as easily as the Warrior that I took lessons in. In the air it flies like a 150, except it goes a lot faster. You get used to that in about 3 hours of flying. I kept loosing the airport on my first flight!

Dan Hopper
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As a long distance cross-country flyer, I have 2 words for you:

FUEL CAPACITY

I'm not even gonna beat my chest about acro or structure or sportiness or
even top speed. Let's just consider fuel.

Say you put the same O-320 in both an RV-7[A] and an RV-9[A]. 6 more
gallons = another HOUR of flying. Somebody mentioned "long distance
cross-country." I can't help equating fuel capacity to range, all else
being equal.

do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1040 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

I got alot of good responses and i appreciate it!

After a week of comparing, analyzing, forecasting... I came to the conclusion that i do not know what my requirements may be in 3 yrs, or whether i will want to be doing aerobatics, get an ifr rating, etc.

My ultimate, dream aircraft at this point would be an RV-7 with plenty of horsepower and a constant-speed prop... something that would be capable of going in any direction i may want to grow over the next 5 - 10 years.

So I have to go for the RV-7! If i am going to spend countless hours in my shop working on this I need to be working on my dream-plane, not something i settled for because i didn't have confidence about my future finances.

There will doubtless be compromises as this aircraft becomes a reality, but they won't be engineered into the airframe.

thx again,
jp
(soon-to-b-drivin-rivets)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

I have to agree with Dan Checkoway. The RV7 with 42
gallons of fuel capacity compared to the 36 gallons
with the RV9 must be considered, and the RV7 has less
limitations in flight. You'll see us out there looping
and rolling and want to join in on the fun... Wink

Darrell

--- Jim Peoples <jp_rv2001(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
I got alot of good responses and i appreciate it!

After a week of comparing, analyzing,
forecasting... I came to the conclusion that i do
not know what my requirements may be in 3 yrs, or
whether i will want to be doing aerobatics, get an
ifr rating, etc.

My ultimate, dream aircraft at this point would be
an RV-7 with plenty of horsepower and a
constant-speed prop... something that would be
capable of going in any direction i may want to grow
over the next 5 - 10 years.

So I have to go for the RV-7! If i am going to
spend countless hours in my shop working on this I
need to be working on my dream-plane, not something
i settled for because i didn't have confidence about
my future finances.

There will doubtless be compromises as this
aircraft becomes a reality, but they won't be
engineered into the airframe.

thx again,
jp
(soon-to-b-drivin-rivets)


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Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: RV-7 or RV-9 ? Reply with quote

but wouldn't splitting the difference be the RV1...?

Wink...8^)

Darrell

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--- lucky <luckymacy(at)comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
neither, split the diff and get the 8.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Ron Lee <ronlee(at)pcisys.net>

>
>
> At 12:05 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote:
> >I could use some feedback from the list on
whether to build an RV7 with a
> >160 HP engine;
> >or an RV9 with a 160 HP engine.
> >
> >With the RV7 i would be at the bottom of the
engine list but able to move
> >up... with the RV9 i would be at the top.
> >
> >are there any other significant differences or
issues that i should be
> >looking at to make this choice?
>
> Sounds like you are building around an engine.
Personally I suggest
> the largest (or close) engine that the
manufacturer/designer approves.
>
> Thus for a -7 I would go no lower than 180 hp.
Some will disagree with
> my view but because I live at 7000' and fly into
the mountains I want
> horsepower. I tell anyone looking to buy a
completed RV to not
> even consider one less than 180 HP.
>
> Is a -9 with 160 HP more marketable than a -7 with
160 HP? I have
> no idea.
>
> Ron Lee
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
>
>


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