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aerobubba(at)earthlink.ne
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 Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: Certification details, was tail lifting... |
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Hi Gerry and list-
RE:
| Quote: | "Did you're engine supplier not run your engine in the test
stand before delivering it to you ? It should be marked in the
log book, I think. I.E. do you really need to run it for a
whole hour ? Aerosport ran my engine for a total of 45 mins
before it was delivered - so apart from a short short "shake
down" run and some taxi tests - its next run will be the wild
blue yonder."
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| Quote: | Listers--We are close to flying our RV-6. On the airworthiness
certificate
application it requires the builder to state that "the powerplant
installation has undergone at least one hour of ground
operation at various speeds from
idle to full power. . . ."
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I have a couple observations / questions- first, my recollection of the
procedure is that, yes, the "engine installation" has to be run for an
hour. This would indicate that the test cell time does not contribute to
meeting this requirement. However, I just went through my airworthiness
cert ap, and my copy only references the fact that the aircraft was
"inspected and is airworthy and is eligible for the airworthiness
certificate requested". Am I missing something, or has the form been
changed? My copy is dated 10-04. Has the engine run provision been
dropped, or is it relocated somewhere else?
glen matejcek
aerobubba(at)earthlink.net
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Gary.A.Sobek
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Location: SoCAL USA
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| Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: Certification details, was tail lifting... |
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On an Application for Airworthiness (FAA Form 8130-6
http://forms.faa.gov/redirect.asp?fnumber=8130-6&url=forms/faa8130-6d.pdf&hit=19),
only sections I, II, and III need filed out by the Applicant for an
Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft.
Where are you finding a requirement to run the engine 1 hour? I just
completed my recurrent training on 24 July 2006. I know of NO requirement
for a one hour engine run before your airworthiness inspection.
Gary A. Sobek
DAR Function Code 46 (Amateur Built Experimental Aircraft)
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://www.rvdar.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba(at)earthlink.net>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: "RV-List Digest Server" <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Certification details, was tail lifting...
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:28:19 -0400
Hi Gerry and list-
RE:
>"Did you're engine supplier not run your engine in the test
>stand before delivering it to you ? It should be marked in the
>log book, I think. I.E. do you really need to run it for a
>whole hour ? Aerosport ran my engine for a total of 45 mins
>before it was delivered - so apart from a short short "shake
>down" run and some taxi tests - its next run will be the wild
>blue yonder."
> Listers--We are close to flying our RV-6. On the airworthiness
> certificate
> application it requires the builder to state that "the powerplant
> installation has undergone at least one hour of ground
> operation at various speeds from
> idle to full power. . . ."
I have a couple observations / questions- first, my recollection of the
procedure is that, yes, the "engine installation" has to be run for an
hour. This would indicate that the test cell time does not contribute to
meeting this requirement. However, I just went through my airworthiness
cert ap, and my copy only references the fact that the aircraft was
"inspected and is airworthy and is eligible for the airworthiness
certificate requested". Am I missing something, or has the form been
changed? My copy is dated 10-04. Has the engine run provision been
dropped, or is it relocated somewhere else?
glen matejcek
aerobubba(at)earthlink.net
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JhnstnIII(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: Certification details, was tail lifting... |
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Gary et al--The form I am looking at does not have form number on it. Perhpas it was cooked up by our local FSDO. It's really more of a checklist of items accomplished.
LeRoy Johnston in Ohio.
On an Application for Airworthiness (FAA Form 8130-6
http://forms.faa.gov/redirect.asp?fnumber=8130-6&url=forms/faa8130-6d.pdf&hit=19),
only sections I, II, and III need filed out by the Applicant for an
Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft.
Where are you finding a requirement to run the engine 1 hour? I just
completed my recurrent training on 24 July 2006. I know of NO requirement
for a one hour engine run before your airworthiness inspection.
Gary A. Sobek
DAR Function Code 46 (Amateur Built Experimental Aircraft)
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://www.rvdar.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba(at)earthlink.net>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: "RV-List Digest Server" <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Certification details, was tail lifting...
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:28:19 -0400
--> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba(at)earthlink.net>
Hi Gerry and list-
RE:
| Quote: | "Did you're engine supplier not run your engine in the test
stand before delivering it to you ? It should be marked in the
log book, I think. I.E. do you really need to run it for a
whole hour ? Aerosport ran my engine for a total of 45 mins
before it was delivered - so apart from a short short "shake
down" run and some taxi tests - its next run will be the wild
blue yonder."
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| Quote: | Listers--We are close to flying our RV-6. On the airworthiness
certificate
application it requires the builder to state that "the powerplant
installation has undergone at least one hour of ground
operation at various speeds from
idle to full power. . . ."
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I have a couple observations / questions- first, my recollection of the
procedure is that, yes, the "engine installation" has to be run for an
hour. This would indicate that the test cell time does not contribute to
meeting this requirement. However, I just went through my airworthiness
cert ap, and my copy only references the fact that the aircraft was
"inspected and is airworthy and is eligible for the airworthiness
certificate requested". Am I missing something, or has the form been
changed? My copy is dated 10-04. Has the engine run provision been
dropped, or is it relocated somewhere else?
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mrobert569(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:51 am Post subject: Certification details, was tail lifting... |
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Gary,
You are correct. There is no requirement to run it for one hour.....but.......you could look at it the same way as looking at AD's. There is no requirement for AD's to be accomplished but no ASI or DAR will (or should) sign off an amateur-built aircraft on initial ceretification unless AD's are done.
Mike Robertson
> From: rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com
| Quote: | To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: RE: Certification details, was tail lifting...
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:57:30 +0000
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com>
On an Application for Airworthiness (FAA Form 8130-6
http://forms.faa.gov/redirect.asp?fnumber=8130-6&url=forms/faa8130-6d.pdf&hit=19),
only sections I, II, and III need filed out by the Applicant for an
Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft.
Where are you finding a requirement to run the engine 1 hour? I just
completed my recurrent training on 24 July 2006. I know of NO requirement
for a one hour engine run before your airworthiness inspection.
Gary A. Sobek
DAR Function Code 46 (Amateur Built Experimental Aircraft)
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,936 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://www.rvdar.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba(at)earthlink.net>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: "RV-List Digest Server" <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: RE: Certification details, was tail lifting...
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:28:19 -0400
--> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba(at)earthlink.net>
Hi Gerry and list-
RE:
>"Did you're engine supplier not run your engine in the test
>stand before delivering it to you ? It should be marked in the
>log book, I think. I.E. do you really need to run it for a
>whole hour ? Aerosport ran my engine for a total of 45 mins
>before it was delivered - so apart from a short short "shake
>down" run and some taxi tests - its next run will be the wild
>blue yonder."
> Listers--We are close to flying our RV-6. On the airworthiness
> certificate
> application it requires the builder to state that "the powerplant
> installation has undergone at least one hour of ground
> operation at various speeds from
> idle to full power. . . ."
I have a couple observations / questions- first, my recollection of the
procedure is that, yes, the "engine installation" has to be run for an
hour. This would indicate that the test cell time does not contribute to
meeting this requirement. However, I just went through my airworthiness
cert ap, and my copy only references the fact that the aircraft was
"inspected and is airworthy and is eligible for the airworthiness
certificate requested". Am I missing something, or has the form been
changed? My copy is dated 10-04. Has the engine run provision been
dropped, or is it relocated somewhere else?
glen matejcek
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