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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject: It's about time. Reply with quote

This just in from a friend. Don't know about where you all fly, but this has been getting out of hand in the northeast. It's about time.

Steve


The inane practice of using the phrase "any traffic please advise" has become so wide spread that the FAA has finally included a "do not do this" in the latest version of the AIM. You will find the following quote at paragraph 4-1-9 G 1 in the latest version of the AIM:
Self-announce is a procedure whereby pilots broadcast their position or intended flight activity or ground operation on the designated CTAF. This procedure is used primarily at airports which do not have an FSS on the airport. The self-announce procedure should also be used if a pilot is unable to communicate with the FSS on the designated CTAF. Pilots stating, "Traffic in the area, please advise" is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition.
If you do not have a current copy of the AIM, you can reference one online at:
http://www.faa.gov/ATPUBS/AIM/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: It's about time. Reply with quote

Steve-

Amen.

Having recently transferred from the airline side to the GA side- I'm simply astounded at the idiocy I see taking place at uncontrolled fields and it is frequently accompanied by that very "please advise" call. >From guys who take off INTO OPPOSING TRAFFIC in order to save themselves 4 minutes of taxi time and 30 seconds of flight time, to guys who land straight-in while calling out their position and expecting those in the pattern to see-and-avoid.

Makes me wish the warbird carried guns. Manually Applied Natural Selection.

RSR

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This just in from a friend. Don't know about where you all fly, but this has been getting out of hand in the northeast. It's about time.

Steve


The inane practice of using the phrase "any traffic please advise" has become so wide spread that the FAA has finally included a "do not do this" in the latest version of the AIM. You will find the following quote at paragraph 4-1-9 G 1 in the latest version of the AIM:
Self-announce is a procedure whereby pilots broadcast their position or intended flight activity or ground operation on the designated CTAF. This procedure is used primarily at airports which do not have an FSS on the airport. The self-announce procedure should also be used if a pilot is unable to communicate with the FSS on the designated CTAF. Pilots stating, "Traffic in the area, please advise" is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition.
If you do not have a current copy of the AIM, you can reference one online at:
http://www.faa.gov/ATPUBS/AIM/
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