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Jim Baker
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
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Location: Sayre, PA
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 Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: JPI remote mount..... |
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Does anyone have any experience with remote mounting a JPI
EDM 700 head separate from the electronics case. Poor "due
diligence" on my part shows that in the Bellanca Viking, pre '75,
there aren't a lot of options as to mounting locations....except
top, dead center where my altimeter now resides (welded in
panel bars and bracing...rats!). I have a three inch location for
the 3 inch display and can make up a couple of AMPMODU IV
dual row connectors to extend from the head to the electronics.
Question is.....how long could I rerasonably expect to make the
ribbon cables without problems. I know this is a loaded question
since one doesn't know the specifics of internal hardware
(suspect a serial interface to the head), so shooting in the
dark...JPI are adamant about not entertaining questions of this
sort. Period.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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FLYaDIVE(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:20 am Post subject: JPI remote mount..... |
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In a message dated 9/7/06 12:06:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jlbaker(at)msbit.net writes:
| Quote: | Does anyone have any experience with remote mounting a JPI
EDM 700 head separate from the electronics case. Poor "due
diligence" on my part shows that in the Bellanca Viking, pre '75,
there aren't a lot of options as to mounting locations....except
top, dead center where my altimeter now resides (welded in
panel bars and bracing...rats!). I have a three inch location for
the 3 inch display and can make up a couple of AMPMODU IV
dual row connectors to extend from the head to the electronics.
Question is.....how long could I rerasonably expect to make the
ribbon cables without problems. I know this is a loaded question
since one doesn't know the specifics of internal hardware
(suspect a serial interface to the head), so shooting in the
dark...JPI are adamant about not entertaining questions of this
sort. Period.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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Jim:
Of course JPI won't answer your question, it would totally change their
warranty on the item and if something went wrong you would say "You told me I could
do that."
There is noting in the electronics signal that will restrict additional
length to the JPI. You can probably run 25 feet before a voltage drop would start
causing problems.
But, why not entertain the idea about a remote mounted "BUDD BOX". Probably
off the bottom of the panel or is there room between the seats?
I know the Bellanca Viking uses many different types of construction
throughout. Is there any place above your head - between the seats, where you can
mount a BUDD BOX? Off a support frame tubing? Or off the floor on a small
stanchion?
How about on top of the glare shield, again in a BUDD BOX?
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
"Show them the first time, correct them the second time, kick them the third
time."
Yamashiada
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Kellym
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: JPI remote mount..... |
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I don't know enough about the differences in their internal electronics,
but EI offers a remote head for their UBG16 analyzer. Perhaps you could
sell the JPI and get EI instead.
FLYaDIVE(at)aol.com wrote:
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In a message dated 9/7/06 12:06:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jlbaker(at)msbit.net writes:
> Does anyone have any experience with remote mounting a JPI
> EDM 700 head separate from the electronics case. Poor "due
> diligence" on my part shows that in the Bellanca Viking, pre '75,
> there aren't a lot of options as to mounting locations....except
> top, dead center where my altimeter now resides (welded in
> panel bars and bracing...rats!). I have a three inch location for
> the 3 inch display and can make up a couple of AMPMODU IV
> dual row connectors to extend from the head to the electronics.
> Question is.....how long could I rerasonably expect to make the
> ribbon cables without problems. I know this is a loaded question
> since one doesn't know the specifics of internal hardware
> (suspect a serial interface to the head), so shooting in the
> dark...JPI are adamant about not entertaining questions of this
> sort. Period.
>
> Jim Baker
> 580.788.2779
> Elmore City, OK
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khorton01(at)rogers.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: JPI remote mount..... |
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Given the way that JPI attacked Matt Dralle, who hosts this very
useful e-mail list, and the way that they restricted users from being
able to download data from their engine monitors, I would buy a unit
from any company but JPI. They are a company that does not respect
their customers, or other people.
Kevin Horton
Ottawa, Canada
do not archive
On 8 Sep 2006, at 09:21, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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<kellym(at)aviating.com>
I don't know enough about the differences in their internal
electronics, but EI offers a remote head for their UBG16 analyzer.
Perhaps you could sell the JPI and get EI instead.
FLYaDIVE(at)aol.com wrote:
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> In a message dated 9/7/06 12:06:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jlbaker(at)msbit.net writes:
>> Does anyone have any experience with remote mounting a JPI EDM
>> 700 head separate from the electronics case. Poor "due
>> diligence" on my part shows that in the Bellanca Viking, pre
>> '75, there aren't a lot of options as to mounting
>> locations....except top, dead center where my altimeter now
>> resides (welded in panel bars and bracing...rats!). I have a
>> three inch location for the 3 inch display and can make up a
>> couple of AMPMODU IV dual row connectors to extend from the head
>> to the electronics. Question is.....how long could I rerasonably
>> expect to make the ribbon cables without problems. I know this
>> is a loaded question since one doesn't know the specifics of
>> internal hardware (suspect a serial interface to the head), so
>> shooting in the dark...JPI are adamant about not entertaining
>> questions of this sort. Period.
>> Jim Baker
>> 580.788.2779
>> Elmore City, OK
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planepubs(at)ev1.net
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: JPI remote mount..... |
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Gotta agree with that one! Rewrote their software when EGVIEWS came out
with a program that read it and put everything into perspective with charts
and graphs. Didn't give a flip about what anyone wanted. Electronics
International (EI) has some fantastic units. And they're customer friendly.
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FLYaDIVE(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: JPI remote mount..... |
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In a message dated 9/8/06 4:38:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, planepubs(at)ev1.net
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> <khorton01(at)rogers.com>
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> Given the way that JPI attacked Matt Dralle, who hosts this very useful
> e-mail list, and the way that they restricted users from being able to
> download data from their engine monitors, I would buy a unit from any
> company but JPI. They are a company that does not respect their
> customers, or other people.
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> Kevin Horton
> Ottawa, Canada
> do not archive
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Kevin:
Sounds like a good case. I install about 3 to 4 fuel flow meters a year and
recently tried to become a distributor of EI. EI is very good with their
customer support but they leave their installers hanging. I was able to get
BETTER prices over the Internet than through EI as a distributor. Go figure. I
believe they judge all distributors using ACS as a gage.
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
"Show them the first time, correct them the second time, kick them the third
time."
Yamashiada
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