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e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.c
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: 1st post

Hello all here

 I am Eddie Bayliss from Liverpool in the  UK 

            I have been  lurking on this list for two years,ever since I bought my damaged mk 111 .I have  enjoyed reading about and learning from the people here who seem to know what  they are talking about.   Up untill now I haven't had anything to post  but as from last saturday evening when I finally got a flight in my own kolb I  am hoping to have something to contribute to this list in the future. My  aircraft was repaired , and passed its pfa inspections in september of last year  but it took from then untill july of this year for all the paperwork to be  processed and a  permit to check fly issued ( Pat ladd and  mike Moulai will know about how slow our system in the uk  can be,  especially if the person who started the repairs  (not me ) did  not follow the accepted paperwork trail ) eventually with the check flight  passed I have found a local pilot ( he used to demo them for the importer in the  early nineties) who can get me flying the kolb , So now not only have I got  a kolb but soon will be able to  fly it solo and hopefully make some useful  contributions  to the photo and message postings here  

   

  Please be prepared for lots of stupid  questions from a new kolb pilot

  

  Eddie 

  

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: 1st post

Hi Eddie:



Welcome to the Kolb List.



Hope you get up and flying soonest.



john h

mkIII

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

APilot(at)webtv.net
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: 1st post

What is your CG location (25, 28, 30 or higher)?  My Kolb was not very

much fun to fly at 33% location, but it is a dream to fly at the 28%

location.  You may notice that it drops in rather suddenly as you full

stall it just over the runway.  Some have recommended that newer pilots

do wheel landing at first, to help keep the landing gear from bending.

        Vic (Sacramento, California)

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: 1st post

| You may notice that it drops in rather suddenly as you full

| stall it just over the runway.  Some have recommended that newer 

pilots

| do wheel landing at first, to help keep the landing gear from 

bending.

|        Vic (Sacramento, California)

|



Vic:



Full stall landings do not bend main gear legs.



It is excessive height above the ground when the stall occurs that 

bends gear legs.



Doesn't matter what kind of fixed wing we are flying, if we stall them 

above the ground, they will fall out of the sky.



Nothing different about a Kolb.



As far as I know........



john h

mkIII (powerless, but on order)

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: 1st post

Eddie

  

 Welcome. I admire your persistence in getting  through the regulatory hoops. Good luck. I'm sure you will enjoy that  Kolb.

  

 Also there is only one stupid question..... The one  you think is stupid and don't ask. That's what we are here for.

  

 Rick Neilsen

 Redrive VW powered MKIIIc 

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Arksey(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: 1st post

Hi Eddie,

     welcome...and good for you getting the Kolb  and you ready to fly.   I  believe there is people on the list  that can and will answer most questions a person might have. Keep us posted on  your progress.

   

 jim Swan Firestar ll  mich.

  

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rlaird

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 373
Location: Houston

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: 1st post

John --



Somehow I missed why you sold you 912S, and what you're getting to

replace it... a 914 maybe?  



  -- Robert



On 9/18/06, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:

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		   john h

 mkIII (powerless, but on order)

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Robert Laird
formerly: MkIIIc w/ 912ULS & Gyrobee
current: Autogyro Cavalon w/ 914ULS
Houston, TX area
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: 1st post

| Somehow I missed why you sold you 912S, and what you're getting to

| replace it... a 914 maybe?  

| 

|  -- Robert

 



Robert:



Going with another 912ULS.



Sold the old engine to buy a new engine.



john h

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

ElleryWeld(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: 1st post

Congrats Eddie and Great days on your wings 

 

     

 

                                                              Ellery  in a   Firestar

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:47 am Post subject: 1st post

jindoguy(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: 1st post

Is the message here that brevity is the soul of wit?



On 9/19/06, pat ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com (pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		  

	


-- 

Rick Girard

"Ya'll drop on in" 

takes on a whole new meaning

when you live at the airport.  [quote][b]

e.bayliss(at)blueyonder.c
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: 1st post

First



Thanks to all who replied to my first post



And to vic (sacramento)  who asked about my cg location , I am an ex trike

(weightshift ) pilot ,as you know we do not do weight and balance with

trikes so I am going to have to get my head round understanding this with

the help of my instructor, I have dug out the weight and balance sheet that

was very kindly  sorted out for me by the inspector who did the permit

inspection and check weighed the aircraft , according to this form the

forward cg limit is 325mm (12.795 inch)  and the reaward limit is 570mm (

22.44090 inch)at max of 390kg (859.794 lbs) and min of 200 kg (440.920 lbs)

with the datum point  being the leading edge of the wing . I hope this makes

sense to you .I do know however, that it felt great to fly and  with pitch

control forces being about the same as I am used to but the  stick forces in

roll are a  lot heavier than the plane I did the conversion to three axis

training in ( ikarus C42) . It was nothing that needs worrying about , just

different

.Now I am looking forward to getting some more training in with my

conversion pilot when he has free time . Hopefully after an hour or two in

the circuit I can master the landing  and get some solo hours in to settle

down with the kolb and then post some photos of my local area and airfield



 Eddie (Liverpool)

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Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1st post

Eddie in Liverpool, 



Let me just tell you from the American get go, we don't do no micrometer here in America. Everything we do comes out in 1/4", 1/8" 1/2" or teh full inch. 



I wanna, when I get some money, come over there and beat-up your  inspector cause he has to be wrong.



"forward cg limit is 325mm (12.795 inch) and the reaward limit is 570mm ( 

22.44090 inch)at max of 390kg (859.794 lbs) and min of 200 kg (440.920 lbs)"



See, eddie, we would only have that dimension 12.795 at 12.750 or 7....whetre is my dag nab calculator, slide rule, demension scale thing....?

Oh, never mind Eddie, he messed up on the weightt thing also, see we don't weigh things at 440.920 here in America unless it was going on the space shuddle and each gram cost a million dollars (38000.357.6 pounds).



The actual weight of the plane would be max 860 pounds and the minium would be 440 pounds, because we don't want to have to deal with one pound or a bunch of ounces!



Welcome to the torture box, brother flier. I am so glad to hear your getting to fly after reading poor Pats escapades. Hope you can take the ragging this site has to offer! Now I am going out and have a stout!



Ohio Ralph looking to get 50 push-ups from John H!

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: 1st post

because we don't want to have to deal with one pound or a bunch of 

ounces!>>



Hi Ralph,

neither do we. I suspect that Eddie just wrote down the weights straight 

from a conversion formula.  The maximum weight is laid down by the authority 

which approves the type of plane. If your plane weighs more than that 

unscrew something and hide it and weigh the plane  again.



True the approved weight is laid down in Kilos but this is a price we gladly 

pay for the undoubted advantage of belonging to the European Union. This 

entitles anyone from Rumania, Poland, Croatia, France, Germany, Belgium or 

almost anywhere else you care to mention, the right to come and live in 

England. You only have the Mexicans!



Cheers



Pat



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jsflan(at)valornet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:22 am Post subject: 1st post

Jeez, Pat,

I thought the Brits were into pounds, where most  Europeans were into Euros. 

)

We also have your Canadian cousins to the north, lest ye forget. Some of 

them even fly Kolbs.

jsf

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: 1st post

I thought the Brits were into pounds, where most  Europeans were into 

Euros.)  >>



Hi,

you are quite right, but we are hanging on to pounds, both financial and 

avoirdupois for as long as possible. I am afraid it is a losing battle.



Re the Canucks. We get `South` on TV about a Mountie working in the States. 

Hilarious!



Cheers



Pat



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Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: Re: 1st post

Pat...."Re the Canucks. We get `South` on TV about a Mountie working in the States. 

Hilarious!"



Not really Pat, they are stopping cars all over the country in their uniforms to test the waters. You see, Bush said "While I am in office, there will be no U.N. or Foreign nations serving to enforce laws in America."  But soon he will be out and Oh, look out what takes place from then on. See Pat, here in Ohio, Police have to pull you over in Police cars, not unmarked (natzi mindset) vehicles. Now in Indiana...that's different. If they can just mellow us down here in Ohio, the Nation will be ready for U.N troops to police our streets, since all of our troops are protecting and defending in every country but ours....While them *&^*$ French look the other way and sell arms to the enemy. (not that we didn't also, as well as train some of them).



Some of them are airplanes equipped with guns! (that's to cover the winners that say that this is a "airplane site". More Kolb power to the people. If more people flew Kolbs, there would be less violence. I suggest a Kolb in every driveway and a chicken in every pot!



Put his Ohio foot into in again Ralph!

Dave Pelletier

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 100
Location: Prescott, Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: 1st post

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		   Hi,

 you are quite right, but we are hanging on to pounds, both financial and 

 avoirdupois for as long as possible. I am afraid it is a losing battle.



 Pat


	


Ok, ok, I'll be the one to ask.  What the hell is an "avoirdupois" and how 

do you cook it?



AzDave

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Michael Sharp

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 118
Location: Oak Grove, MO (Kansas City)

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: 1st post

I hear it's good with a lemon wine sauce with potabello mushrooms and a good Merlot...

   

  Of course asking the brits about cooking is well...  i dunno...

   

  Just teasing Pat... just teasing!!!

   

  Do not archive

   

  Mike

  KCMO

  



Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier(at)cableone.net> wrote:

  [quote]--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" 



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi,

 you are quite right, but we are hanging on to pounds, both financial and 

 avoirdupois for as long as possible. I am afraid it is a losing battle.



 Pat


	


Ok, ok, I'll be the one to ask. What the hell is an "avoirdupois" and how 

do you cook it?



AzDave

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The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine...And why shouldn't it be?-
--It is the same the angels breathe.
Mark Twain,
Roughing it' 1886

Mike

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: 1st post

What the hell is an "avoirdupois" and how do you cook it?>>



Hi,

call it `mass` and with a bit of garlic I should think.



Just one of the words, now almost unused except by old farts like me, which 

we pinched from another language. French plus a little  Latin and Greek and 

German plus anything else useful,  `khaki` and `bungalow` from India for 

example, mix well and you have the language with the richest choice of words 

in the world.  Pity about the American version.



The French of course adopt some of our words in exchange, `le 

pullover`...`le weekend` etc., a fair exchange for a word like `carburettor` 

I reckon.



Off to la belle France on Saturday, driving from the northwest corner to the 

southeast corner and then over the mountains into Spain so no more `bon 

mots` from me for about three weeks. Unless `turrurists` start to blow up 

boats as well as planes in which case you will read about it in the 

newspapers.

You will find the foreign news on the back page.



Cheers everybody



Pat



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