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 Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: Backup Instrumentation |
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So with pretty much every EFIS we've now heard that there's a problem
of one sort of another. For those who are planning an EFIS, even
a reliable and expensive one, don't forget to put backup gauges in
for the critical stuff. I've seen a few EFIS-only panels already,
and I can't help but think there's something to be said for
non-electric, or at least self contained backups.
Check out this story on a G1000.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm
And I got a copy of this service alert from Avidyne.
http://www.myrv10.com/files/avidyne/SA-05-001.pdf
You'll see that even they now specify backup instruments after
having issues with their systems.
So I haven't heard of an EFIS yet that doesn't have at least some
issue. Dynon's were previously famous for losing attitude when
the system loses airspeed. BMA has had all sorts of things.
Chelton has had the Crossbow 425 stuff. OP tech has had some
interesting issues. So plan your panels accordingly....and
remember these things are programmed by humans....hopefully not
the same ones who wrote Windows 95. 
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: Backup Instrumentation |
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I agree that back up instrumentation is a MUST. I just wanted to say that my Grand Rapid units have performed perfect for 80+ hours. There have been no performance issues. I do have issues with menus and some functions but nothing on it's reliability.
Depending on the kind of flying you do, GRT might be a good system for you.
Customer service is the best and my units arrived couple of weeks early.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>
So with pretty much every EFIS we've now heard that there's a problem
of one sort of another. For those who are planning an EFIS, even
a reliable and expensive one, don't forget to put backup gauges in
for the critical stuff. I've seen a few EFIS-only panels already,
and I can't help but think there's something to be said for
non-electric, or at least self contained backups.
Check out this story on a G1000.
[url=http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot\'s_tranatlantic_flight.htm]http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm[/url]
And I got a copy of this service alert from Avidyne.
http://www.myrv10.com/files/avidyne/SA-05-001.pdf
You'll see that even they now specify backup instruments after
having issues with their systems.
So I haven't heard of an EFIS yet that doesn't have at least some
issue. Dynon's were previously famous for losing attitude when
the system loses airspeed. BMA has had all sorts of things.
Chelton has had the Crossbow 425 stuff. OP tech has had some
interesting issues. So plan your panels accordingly....and
remember these things are programmed by humans....hopefully not
the same ones who wrote Windows 95.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: Backup Instrumentation |
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FWIW, I opted for the dual GRT EFIS (one AHRS) and also a Dynon with the internal battery (good for 2 hours). That way if there’s a total electrical failure, failure of either EFIS computer or display there’s still something working with all attitude, heading, airspeed and altitude info.
Marcus
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Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Backup Instrumentation
I agree that back up instrumentation is a MUST. I just wanted to say that my Grand Rapid units have performed perfect for 80+ hours. There have been no performance issues. I do have issues with menus and some functions but nothing on it's reliability.
Depending on the kind of flying you do, GRT might be a good system for you.
Customer service is the best and my units arrived couple of weeks early.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>
So with pretty much every EFIS we've now heard that there's a problem
of one sort of another. For those who are planning an EFIS, even
a reliable and expensive one, don't forget to put backup gauges in
for the critical stuff. I've seen a few EFIS-only panels already,
and I can't help but think there's something to be said for
non-electric, or at least self contained backups.
Check out this story on a G1000.
[url=http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot\'s_tranatlantic_flight.htm]http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm[/url]
And I got a copy of this service alert from Avidyne.
http://www.myrv10.com/files/avidyne/SA-05-001.pdf
You'll see that even they now specify backup instruments after
having issues with their systems.
So I haven't heard of an EFIS yet that doesn't have at least some
issue. Dynon's were previously famous for losing attitude when
the system loses airspeed. BMA has had all sorts of things.
Chelton has had the Crossbow 425 stuff. OP tech has had some
interesting issues. So plan your panels accordingly....and
remember these things are programmed by humans....hopefully not
the same ones who wrote Windows 95.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:28 am Post subject: Backup Instrumentation |
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I went with the GRT Duel Horizon I as the primary and backup with the GRT Sport which has it's own AHRS. In addition I installed an SD-8 engine driven alternator with a separate alternator switch and SD-8 alternator switch as a backup as well.
Russ Daves
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Took my second flight in the Glastar with the GRT Sport today. Found myself glancing at the "backup" airspeed indicator on final. Also somewhat distracted by all the new info that was available. Another few hours and I will be familiar with it. Perhaps the transition to the Cheltons in the 10 will be easier.
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Nick Nafsinger
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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When I first started flying the company’s Baron (dual Cert Cheltons) I was constantly flying by the backup ASI and ALT. I found the Chelton had just ‘too much information’ on it for me to handle (coupled with learning the whole two motor thing). Somewhere in the next 15 hours it all changed, I can’t tell you exactly when but I attribute it to getting comfortable with the airplane and learning what button does what on the Chelton. Everything cleared right up and now I wouldn’t have it any other way, EFIS even going through teething is IMO the only way to go. Give yourself some backups to keep you honest and life will be grand.
Even thought we have a long ways to go, the build partner and I have (for now) decided on Dual OP’s for the Primary Flight and MFD displays. Backups are still on the negotiation table. Whether it is Dynon, GRT, OP, or Chelton (buy what fits YOUR needs and budget) I just can’t see anyone regretting going the EFIS route.
Nick Nafsinger
40569 emp, awaiting QB
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Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:53 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: backup instrumentation
Took my second flight in the Glastar with the GRT Sport today. Found myself glancing at the "backup" airspeed indicator on final. Also somewhat distracted by all the new info that was available. Another few hours and I will be familiar with it. Perhaps the transition to the Cheltons in the 10 will be easier.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Why the OP? Not many mention it. They are in my backyard and I should really go visit.
John Jessen
#40328 (riveting tailcone - finally)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Nafsinger
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 1:51 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: backup instrumentation
When I first started flying the company’s Baron (dual Cert Cheltons) I was constantly flying by the backup ASI and ALT. I found the Chelton had just ‘too much information’ on it for me to handle (coupled with learning the whole two motor thing). Somewhere in the next 15 hours it all changed, I can’t tell you exactly when but I attribute it to getting comfortable with the airplane and learning what button does what on the Chelton. Everything cleared right up and now I wouldn’t have it any other way, EFIS even going through teething is IMO the only way to go. Give yourself some backups to keep you honest and life will be grand.
Even thought we have a long ways to go, the build partner and I have (for now) decided on Dual OP’s for the Primary Flight and MFD displays. Backups are still on the negotiation table. Whether it is Dynon, GRT, OP, or Chelton (buy what fits YOUR needs and budget) I just can’t see anyone regretting going the EFIS route.
Nick Nafsinger
40569 emp, awaiting QB
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:53 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: backup instrumentation
Took my second flight in the Glastar with the GRT Sport today. Found myself glancing at the "backup" airspeed indicator on final. Also somewhat distracted by all the new info that was available. Another few hours and I will be familiar with it. Perhaps the transition to the Cheltons in the 10 will be easier.
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Deems Davis
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Sorry I couldn't resist jumping in on this one!
Why OP?
EFIS selection is a lot like Engine selection, it really depends upon
what your mission/requirements are. Once people have made their
decisions (and paid their money) they tend to become strongly invested
in them. (this builder included). I chose dual OP's for several reasons
but the following were the biggest. (I eliminated GRT due to their
limited bandwidth in their processor. i.e. they will not be able to
provide syn vis without a h/w and code upgrade)
1. The screens are larger and brighter than Chelton.
2. I LIKE A LOT of information available to me and the OP screens allow
for the concurrent display of : HSI, moving map, flightplan, COM/NAV
freq's, and 4 primary engine instruments ALL on a _single_ display. with
dual screens I can display a TON of information and do not require a 3rd
display to view it real time.
3. They have IFR charts integrated into their system and they are able
to display the aircraft position as the approach progresses in either
the top down or 'side' views.
The D2av guys are excellent marketeers and are doing a great job of
extending the Chelton screens into the experimental world. I OP guys
have a LOT to learn in this arena, hence your comment about 'nobody
talks about them'. They appear to be expanding in their business as they
just leased a 10,000 sq ft building to move into. and They had 4 open
positions listed on their web site that they are recruiting for.
I wanted to do and did my own wiring/installation.
http://deemsrv10.com/panellogindex.html
and
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/index.html
They provide an EXCELLENT installation manual (available on their
website) which has preconfigured pinouts identified for all of the major
NAV/COM/GPS/Autopilot mfgs. The installation on my part went very well,
and their support was excellent (I got one e-mail response (at) 10:45 (at)
night that was just sent to then 1 1/2 hours earlier!).
I'm obviously NOT flying yet, but I've 'logged' 30+ hours behind these
screens on the bench and the more time I spend with them the more I like
what I'm seeing.
I'm not affiliated with them in any way. My only (selfish) interest is
to make sure as many other RV-10 builders get exposed to them as
possible to as to increase the 'user base' which can do nothing but help
to ensure continued great support for a great product.
John Jessen wrote:
| Quote: | Why the OP? Not many mention it. They are in my backyard and I should
really go visit.
John Jessen
#40328 (riveting tailcone - finally)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick
Nafsinger
*Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2006 1:51 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: backup instrumentation
When I first started flying the company’s Baron (dual Cert Cheltons) I
was constantly flying by the backup ASI and ALT. I found the Chelton
had just ‘too much information’ on it for me to handle (coupled with
learning the whole two motor thing). Somewhere in the next 15 hours it
all changed, I can’t tell you exactly when but I attribute it to
getting comfortable with the airplane and learning what button does
what on the Chelton. Everything cleared right up and now I wouldn’t
have it any other way, EFIS even going through teething is IMO the
only way to go. Give yourself some backups to keep you honest and life
will be grand.
Even thought we have a long ways to go, the build partner and I have
(for now) decided on Dual OP’s for the Primary Flight and MFD
displays. Backups are still on the negotiation table. Whether it is
Dynon, GRT, OP, or Chelton (buy what fits YOUR needs and budget) I
just can’t see anyone regretting going the EFIS route.
Nick Nafsinger
40569 emp, awaiting QB
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill
*Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:53 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* backup instrumentation
Took my second flight in the Glastar with the GRT Sport today. Found
myself glancing at the "backup" airspeed indicator on final. Also
somewhat distracted by all the new info that was available. Another
few hours and I will be familiar with it. Perhaps the transition to
the Cheltons in the 10 will be easier.
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Rick S.
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You go Deem's!!!!!!
Living the dream and not just taking Sh*t about it!!!
How was the wedding?, I'm looking over my overhead console tonight, much better finish from Tony than Van's. Accuracy has a winner with this one.
Rick S.
40185
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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I am not familiar with OP. Where can I get some information?
Regards,
David Maib
40559
tailcone
On Oct 8, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
Sorry I couldn't resist jumping in on this one!
Why OP?
EFIS selection is a lot like Engine selection, it really depends upon
what your mission/requirements are. Once people have made their
decisions (and paid their money) they tend to become strongly
invested in them. (this builder included). I chose dual OP's for
several reasons but the following were the biggest. (I eliminated GRT
due to their limited bandwidth in their processor. i.e. they will not
be able to provide syn vis without a h/w and code upgrade)
1. The screens are larger and brighter than Chelton.
2. I LIKE A LOT of information available to me and the OP screens
allow for the concurrent display of : HSI, moving map, flightplan,
COM/NAV freq's, and 4 primary engine instruments ALL on a _single_
display. with dual screens I can display a TON of information and do
not require a 3rd display to view it real time.
3. They have IFR charts integrated into their system and they are
able to display the aircraft position as the approach progresses in
either the top down or 'side' views.
The D2av guys are excellent marketeers and are doing a great job of
extending the Chelton screens into the experimental world. I OP guys
have a LOT to learn in this arena, hence your comment about 'nobody
talks about them'. They appear to be expanding in their business as
they just leased a 10,000 sq ft building to move into. and They had 4
open positions listed on their web site that they are recruiting for.
I wanted to do and did my own wiring/installation.
http://deemsrv10.com/panellogindex.html
and
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/index.html
They provide an EXCELLENT installation manual (available on their
website) which has preconfigured pinouts identified for all of the
major NAV/COM/GPS/Autopilot mfgs. The installation on my part went
very well, and their support was excellent (I got one e-mail response
(at) 10:45 (at) night that was just sent to then 1 1/2 hours earlier!).
I'm obviously NOT flying yet, but I've 'logged' 30+ hours behind
these screens on the bench and the more time I spend with them the
more I like what I'm seeing.
I'm not affiliated with them in any way. My only (selfish) interest
is to make sure as many other RV-10 builders get exposed to them as
possible to as to increase the 'user base' which can do nothing but
help to ensure continued great support for a great product.
John Jessen wrote:
| Quote: | Why the OP? Not many mention it. They are in my backyard and I
should really go visit.
John Jessen
#40328 (riveting tailcone - finally)
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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-
list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick Nafsinger
*Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2006 1:51 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: backup instrumentation
When I first started flying the company’s Baron (dual Cert
Cheltons) I was constantly flying by the backup ASI and ALT. I
found the Chelton had just ‘too much information’ on it for me to
handle (coupled with learning the whole two motor thing). Somewhere
in the next 15 hours it all changed, I can’t tell you exactly when
but I attribute it to getting comfortable with the airplane and
learning what button does what on the Chelton. Everything cleared
right up and now I wouldn’t have it any other way, EFIS even going
through teething is IMO the only way to go. Give yourself some
backups to keep you honest and life will be grand.
Even thought we have a long ways to go, the build partner and I
have (for now) decided on Dual OP’s for the Primary Flight and MFD
displays. Backups are still on the negotiation table. Whether it is
Dynon, GRT, OP, or Chelton (buy what fits YOUR needs and budget) I
just can’t see anyone regretting going the EFIS route.
Nick Nafsinger
40569 emp, awaiting QB
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list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill
*Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:53 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* backup instrumentation
Took my second flight in the Glastar with the GRT Sport today.
Found myself glancing at the "backup" airspeed indicator on final.
Also somewhat distracted by all the new info that was available.
Another few hours and I will be familiar with it. Perhaps the
transition to the Cheltons in the 10 will be easier.
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AV8ORJWC
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Deems, your jumping in on this one is the most exciting thing since Tim
changed his view from Grand Rapids to Chelton in N104CD. For those
willing to read and consider your criteria, the choice is progressive,
well informed and cost effective. Isn't competition great?
As my vision went rapidly south after 50 to bifocals, then tri-focals at
52, this display holds a long-term investment recommendation from me. I
want to know more about the IFR charts, I am enthralled with the ideal
of a GPS feed into the display that shows current taxiway location and
relative airport movement to reduce runway incursions in low visibility.
More information is better on a glass EFIS. Makes me wonder the
capability with three OPtechs in the panel. I think that as more
builders chose to do their own wiring and use weedwacker line to
determine the runs from component to termination point, there will be a
lot of positive accolades coming your way for keeping the excitement.
The wiring can actually be a rewarding alternative from those monotonous
rivet tasks.
John Cox
40600
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gorejr(at)bellsouth.net
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Who did you get your console from? Pics? This is next on my procure list. Thanks! Jim
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Date: 2006/10/08 Sun PM 11:17:10 EDT
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: backup instrumentation
You go Deem's!!!!!!
Living the dream and not just taking Sh*t about it!!!
How was the wedding?, I'm looking over my overhead console tonight, much better finish from Tony than Van's. Accuracy has a winner with this one.
Rick S.
40185
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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Deems I really like your panel layout. It looks like you will have a great panel when your done. I wish I had your skill level to put something together like that by myself, but I don't. Did you fabricate the panel yourself?
Wayne Edgerton #40336
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Rick S.
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Location: Las Vegas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Jim,
Go to www.accuracyavionics.com
Tony Sustares company. It comes with eyeball lights and black anodized vents the final finish is on it is very nice and it looks like it will mate up with little trouble. They are also working up my panel. The door hinges do need to be on before starting though so I'm a several weeks from that point. I still need to install the O2 tank and plan the routing of the supply lines and regulator controls which I'm putting in the overhead console as well. The console seals against the aft baggage area bulkhead just above the corrugated closeout panels. The entire console is pressurized by incoming fresh air ducted from the tail section.
Rick S.
40185
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jjessen
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
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Location: OR
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Deems, thanks! Glad I asked. John C, you want to go visit or have you
already been?
John J
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Deems Davis
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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I built the center console myself. You can find the info here.
http://deemsrv10.com/upperfwdfuseinstallationlogindex.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2041%20Upper%20Fwd%20Fuse%20Install/index.html
The Panel I bought from Gary Wirrell (at) Aerotronics, It's a Lancair IV
panel that requires some adaptation to fit the RV-10
Deems Davis # 406
Panel/Finishing
http://deemsrv10.com/
gorejr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
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Who did you get your console from? Pics? This is next on my procure list. Thanks! Jim
>From: Rick <ricksked(at)earthlink.net>
>Date: 2006/10/08 Sun PM 11:17:10 EDT
>To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: backup instrumentation
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>You go Deem's!!!!!!
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>Living the dream and not just taking Sh*t about it!!!
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>How was the wedding?, I'm looking over my overhead console tonight, much better finish from Tony than Van's. Accuracy has a winner with this one.
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>Rick S.
>40185
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Deems Davis
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Wow ! what a great idea i.e. running the O2 lines and controls through
the overhead!
THANKS Rick!
Deems Davis # 406
Panel/Finishing
http://deemsrv10.com/
Rick wrote:
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Jim,
Go to www.accuracyavionics.com
Tony Sustares company. It comes with eyeball lights and black anodized vents the final finish is on it is very nice and it looks like it will mate up with little trouble. They are also working up my panel. The door hinges do need to be on before starting though so I'm a several weeks from that point. I still need to install the O2 tank and plan the routing of the supply lines and regulator controls which I'm putting in the overhead console as well. The console seals against the aft baggage area bulkhead just above the corrugated closeout panels. The entire console is pressurized by incoming fresh air ducted from the tail section.
Rick S.
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AV8ORJWC
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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Going to Copperstate October 26-29 just SW of Phoenix, wouldn't want to
miss Deem's project (while in town). Any other trip takers or AZ project
builders willing to show their progress? His willingness to wire and
fabricate the console is exactly the spirit Tim brought and one which
should be encouraged. Anyone with loose bucks can hire a gunslinger.
Home Built, Owner Maintained ... now that's the spirit.
Looking to get an early fix by our Oregon RV-10 dinner and tour of Ed
Hayden's head turner.
John C
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Deems Davis
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: backup instrumentation |
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I am not familiar with OP. Where can I get some information?
Regards,
David Maib
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Try : http://www.optechnologies.com/index2.html
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