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LIKE2LOOP(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: Weldment part

In a message dated 10/15/06 5:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  fehdxl(at)gmail.com writes:

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		  I need    to get the new WD-415-1's from Van's for $8...or the milled ones from, uh,    can't remember the web site's name now, for $38 --  decisions? 	


 

 Get the ones from Dave Czachorowski,   DBA - Rivethead,

  

 rvsiverbullet(at)verizon.net (rvsiverbullet(at)verizon.net)        302-437-6087

  

 I am not sure what VANs is selling now, but the ones in the KIT are pretty  weak.  The ones i received from Dave are excellent workmanship.  If  you hold the two parts side by side, you will wonder how they ever tried selling  the one with the kit.   Make sure you are comparing apples to  apples.  I got the weldment nuts, HS attach brackets and rudder stops in  one package, call and ask price. 

  

 Steve

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rwhunter(at)integra.net
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: Weldment part

Here is the web site for the WD 415 by Dave  Czachorowski.

             http://www.rivethead-aero.com/rv10l

  

 Rob Hunter

 Elevators

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Weldment part

All  

   

I have just inventoried all my parts including sorting etc. In the process I came across the WD-415’s from Van’s. It looks like a couple of nuts on a stainless square with a couple of welds. You can see between the welds which makes me wonder if it is going to last.   

   

I have been to Rivethead’s website (even before I took the kit plunge) based on comments that I have read in posts over the past three months.  I plan to get Rivethead’s part only because it looks like it will last. Should I also be purchasing his other RV10 products (i.e. brackets etc)? Are their other parts in the RV10 kit that I should be replacing with “aftermarket” parts?  

   

Inquiring minds need to know  

   

Les Kearney  

RV10 # 40643 - Awaiting tools  

   

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fehdxl(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: Weldment part

Fellow builders,

  

 Just to summarize...there are three generations of Van's WD-415's ...  

  

 v1: no aft weld (single weld across the front of the nut) 

 v2: one long weld across the front of the nut and a small tack weld on the aft side of the nut

 v3: full width welds on both sides of the nut  (Also known as WD-415-1).

  

 http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-9-20.pdf

  

 Question for those who bought RivetHeadAero's version http://www.rivethead-aero.com/rv10_005.htm ... it's all aluminum, milled from a solid block, right  Any concerns about switching from steel to aluminum? 

  

 Thanks!

  

 -Jim

 40603

  

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LIKE2LOOP(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: Weldment part

In a message dated 10/15/06 6:31:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  kearney(at)shaw.ca writes:

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		  I plan    to get Rivetheadâ€™s part only because it looks like it will last. Should I also    be purchasing his other RV10 products (i.e. brackets etc)?  	


 

 Les.  In a word YES.  Quality and dont look back.

  

 Steve

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wv4i(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:56 am Post subject: Weldment part

If you don't buy the pre fab HS attach brackets, be very careful as to 

dimensions, hole sizes and positioning, etc. I did not catch that the 

widths are different, had to order new angle stock fm Air Parts, and do 

them again, etc.. Not difficult to make these parts incorrectly. 

Definitely want to catch before drilling HS front spar...All considered, 

I would just buy the pre fab HS attach brackets, and save time. Probably 

other items too. Thanks to all for heads up and info.



Link McGarity

#40622 Elevator

zackrv8

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 133

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:46 am Post subject: Re: Weldment part

Also, when I first put on Vans Weldment, the angle of the weldment/nut  was wrong because the trim cables would bind against the elevator spar too much.  Dave fixed that with the new replacement.



  Notice the part number of Vans weldment.  It was first used on the RV4 manual trim (maybe even the RV3!).



Zack





[quote="fehdxl(at)gmail.com"]Fellow builders,

  

 Just to summarize...there are three generations of Van's WD-415's ...  

  

 v1: no aft weld (single weld across the front of the nut) 

 v2: one long weld across the front of the nut and a small tack weld on the aft side of the nut

 v3: full width welds on both sides of the nut  (Also known as WD-415-1).

  

 http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-9-20.pdf

  

 Question for those who bought RivetHeadAero's version http://www.rivethead-aero.com/rv10_005.htm ... it's all aluminum, milled from a solid block, right  Any concerns about switching from steel to aluminum? 

  

 Thanks!

  

 -Jim

 40603

  

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RV10 # 40512

Vern(at)teclabsinc.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: Weldment part

Zack,



Do the rivet holes for Dave's "weldments" line up with the rivet holes

from Van's? I installed the version 2 units from Vans along time ago and

was wondering if I need to replace the access panels when using the

machined ones.



Vern (324 fuselage:)



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zackrv8

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 133

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Weldment part

Vern,



  You might need to replace them if you already drilled the holes for the old weldment.  Daves part has a slightly wider footprint.  However, it might work but I don't know for sure because I never drilled the holes in Vans weldment because the darn thing would not line up without bending the trim cables to the point of binding them.



  Maybe Anh Vu can chime in here.  He had the old weldments on and switched to Dave's billet parts.



Zack



 	  Vern(at)teclabsinc.com wrote: 	
		  Zack,



Do the rivet holes for Dave's "weldments" line up with the rivet holes

from Van's? I installed the version 2 units from Vans along time ago and

was wondering if I need to replace the access panels when using the

machined ones.



Vern (324 fuselage:)



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RV10 # 40512

Vern(at)teclabsinc.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: Weldment part

John,



I think most of the original weldments are made out of stainless steel.

It's not so much the choice of material that has people concerned but

the welds or rather the lack of them. The aluminum ones are designed to

eliminate the weld and with it the possibility of the weld breaking.



Vern Smith(324)

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