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owl40188(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

I couldn't find the Flo-Scan fuel flow measuring idevice in Vans accessories catalog.  I was thinking of getting it and installing it when I do my fuel system as I am getting close to that step.  Is there a reason not to get it yet as I am not sure which engine instument system I will go with? 

 

 thanks

Niko

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

This info is a couple of years old, but the Flo-Scan senders 1) restrict fuel flow, and worse 2) create turbidity in the fuel.  There were a couple of better sensors but I can't remember any brand names.  Sorry.

 

 David M.

 

 

 Nikolaos Napoli wrote:

 [quote]          I couldn't find the Flo-Scan fuel flow measuring idevice in Vans accessories catalog.  I was thinking of getting it and installing it when I do my fuel system as I am getting close to that step.  Is there a reason not to get it yet as I am not sure which engine instument system I will go with? 

  

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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

EI makes one that is compatible electronically with a Flo-Scan 201 and is available as a separate item.  I ordered the fuel flow sensor from Advanced Flight Systems for their engine monitor and that is what I received.    

   

http://www.buy-ei.com/Accessories.htm   Picture shows a Flo-Scan but the actual FT-60 is a red cube.  

   

Bob  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David M.

 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:01 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Flo-Scan  

  

   

This info is a couple of years old, but the Flo-Scan senders 1) restrict fuel flow, and worse 2) create turbidity in the fuel.  There were a couple of better sensors but I can't remember any brand names.  Sorry.

 

 David M.

 

 

 Nikolaos Napoli wrote:

 

       

 I couldn't find the Flo-Scan fuel flow measuring idevice in Vans accessories catalog.  I was thinking of getting it and installing it when I do my fuel system as I am getting close to that step.  Is there a reason not to get it yet as I am not sure which engine instument system I will go with? 

    

    

thanks  

  

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

check with the maker of your engine monitor. If you  are , for example, buying the GRT EIS 6000 you will be getting a floscan. If  your are buying JPI engine analyzer you will get a different  sensor.

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RobHickman(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

The flow transducer will  work better on an injected engine if it is  place in the line from the throttle servo to the fuel distribution block on the  top of the engine.

  

 The EI transducer is not electrically the same as the Flow Scan unit,   it puts out about twice as many pulses and you engine monitor has to be able to  accept the higher data rate.

  

  

 Rob Hickman

 www.Advanced-Flight-Systems.com

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armywrights(at)adelphia.n
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

Go right to the source.  I bookmarked this two days ago for when I order.  

   

http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/accessories.php  

   

first item on the list is model 231, the one you want if you use the flo-scan.  

   

Rob Wright  

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RobHickman(at)aol.com

 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:21 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Flo-Scan  

  

     

The flow transducer will  work better on an injected engine if it is place in the line from the throttle servo to the fuel distribution block on the top of the engine.  

    

   

    

The EI transducer is not electrically the same as the Flow Scan unit,  it puts out about twice as many pulses and you engine monitor has to be able to accept the higher data rate.  

    

   

    

   

    

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

Rob, Why the 231? I couldn't find any specs on it on their site. However 

they do list the 201 (3 models) for aviation purposes, but I couldn't 

find a price listed anywhere?



Deems Davis # 406

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Rob Wright wrote:



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		   Go right to the source.  I bookmarked this two days ago for when I order.



  



 http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/accessories.php



  



 first item on the list is model 231, the one you want if you use the 

 flo-scan.



  



 Rob Wright



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 *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com 

 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of 

 *RobHickman(at)aol.com

 *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:21 PM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* Re: Flo-Scan



  



 The flow transducer will  work better on an injected engine if it is 

 place in the line from the throttle servo to the fuel distribution 

 block on the top of the engine.



  



 The EI transducer is not electrically the same as the Flow Scan unit,  

 it puts out about twice as many pulses and you engine monitor has to 

 be able to accept the higher data rate.



  



  



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 www.Advanced-Flight-Systems.com <http://www.Advanced-Flight-Systems.com>



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armywrights(at)adelphia.n
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

Well, I based my search criteria off of what I saw other discussing

recently.  I thought it was one of the Jims or Johns mentioning using the

231.  Yeah, I should know better than to put faith in other, non-hallowed

Vans employees!



A quick call to Vans may clear this up as to which model the supplied

bracket fits, but even that may end up being universal to the 201 series and

the 231 model.



I didn't even check the aviation versions once I saw the search go to the

231.  Funny there are no prices for the 201s, and no info on the 231!



More research necessary!  If some of you actually intelligent guys could do

it though, would you please let this caveman know while I'm out banging

rivets?



Rob Wright 

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bhughes(at)qnsi.net
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:13 am Post subject: Flo-Scan

There is another option with GRT and fuel injection. They  offer an option to monitor the injector pulse to determine fuel flow. I will be  using this option on my rotary conversion. It should work with any injection  system. 

  

 Bobby

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   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David  McNeill

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:40 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RV10-List:  Flo-Scan

 

 check with the maker of your engine monitor. If you  are , for example, buying the GRT EIS 6000 you will be getting a floscan. If  your are buying JPI engine analyzer you will get a different  sensor.

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owl40188(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: Flo-Scan

Thanks for all the info.  I guess I am going to wait until I decided on which engine instrument package I am going to use.  

 Do not archive

 

Niko Napoli 



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lm(at)viscomvisual.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: Flo-Scan

How  precise is this method compared to the FF sender? Has anybody got  experience?

  

 Lorenz

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apilot2(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Flo-Scan

Only on injection that uses timed injection pulses. It wouldn't work

on any continuous flow injection, like the Bendix that Lycoming puts

on their certified engines..those injectors are passive orifices, with

no pulsing involved.



On 10/27/06, Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes(at)qnsi.net> wrote:

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 There is another option with GRT and fuel injection. They offer an option to

 monitor the injector pulse to determine fuel flow. I will be using this

 option on my rotary conversion. It should work with any injection system.



 Bobby

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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Flo-Scan

This is the same method they use for the Eggenfellner  Subaru, GRT is monitoring the fuel injection pulse for fuel flow  rates.

 Dan

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   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby J.  Hughes

Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:12 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: RV10-List:  Flo-Scan

 

 There is another option with GRT and fuel injection. They  offer an option to monitor the injector pulse to determine fuel flow. I will be  using this option on my rotary conversion. It should work with any injection  system. 

  

 Bobby

 40116



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David  McNeill

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:40 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RV10-List:  Flo-Scan

 

 check with the maker of your engine monitor. If you  are , for example, buying the GRT EIS 6000 you will be getting a floscan. If  your are buying JPI engine analyzer you will get a different  sensor.

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bhughes(at)qnsi.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: Flo-Scan

Kelly,



That makes since or more folks would be using this option. I have only

flown carburetor Lyc's. So only EFI systems can use this option. 



Bobby



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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: Flo-Scan

I used their 'request a quote feature' and sent them a request for price 

for the 201A-6 Aviation model and asked them what the difference was 

between it and the 231.



Deems Davis # 406

Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )

http://deemsrv10.com/

Do Not Archive



Rob Wright wrote:



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Well, I based my search criteria off of what I saw other discussing

recently.  I thought it was one of the Jims or Johns mentioning using the

231.  Yeah, I should know better than to put faith in other, non-hallowed

Vans employees!



A quick call to Vans may clear this up as to which model the supplied

bracket fits, but even that may end up being universal to the 201 series and

the 231 model.



I didn't even check the aviation versions once I saw the search go to the

231.  Funny there are no prices for the 201s, and no info on the 231!



More research necessary!  If some of you actually intelligent guys could do

it though, would you please let this caveman know while I'm out banging

rivets?



Rob Wright 

#392

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rv10builder(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

I talked to the folks at Flo-Scan a couple of months ago and posed this 

same question.  If I recall correctly their response was that the only 

difference between the two units was the number of notches in the rotors 

for each unit and how many times it interrupts the light beam for a 

given flow.  They led me to believe they were otherwise identical until 

I mentioned the word "airplane" when immediately I was advised to only 

use the 201.  I then proceeded to discuss my interest as "experimental 

aircraft" and was told "conceivable I could use the 231, but...". I 

assume this is due to them only getting certification for the 201.



I bought a brand new 231 off eBay from a Marine supply for $100, but now 

that I have a GRT will use the 201 supplied with the EIS.  When I was 

considering a BMA EFIS the folks there advised the 231 as many of their 

customer have used them with great success.



Brian

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http://www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder



Deems Davis wrote:

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 I used their 'request a quote feature' and sent them a request for 

 price for the 201A-6 Aviation model and asked them what the difference 

 was between it and the 231.



 Deems Davis # 406

 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )

 http://deemsrv10.com/

 Do Not Archive



 Rob Wright wrote:



> 

>

> Well, I based my search criteria off of what I saw other discussing

> recently.  I thought it was one of the Jims or Johns mentioning using 

> the

> 231.  Yeah, I should know better than to put faith in other, 

> non-hallowed

> Vans employees!

>

> A quick call to Vans may clear this up as to which model the supplied

> bracket fits, but even that may end up being universal to the 201 

> series and

> the 231 model.

>

> I didn't even check the aviation versions once I saw the search go to 

> the

> 231.  Funny there are no prices for the 201s, and no info on the 231!

>

> More research necessary!  If some of you actually intelligent guys 

> could do

> it though, would you please let this caveman know while I'm out banging

> rivets?

>

> Rob Wright #392

> Tailcone attach

>  

>

>  

>



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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

Hey all - 



Here's a silly question that I've been wondering - why doesn't anyone

use a flush latch on the oil door like on a Cessna?  also, anyone know

where you can pick one up?  I was just looking at the baggage door

latch, then started thinking about the Cessna version, which got me

thinking about the oil door...  of course, i'm supposed to be working...

cj

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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Flo-Scan

cj,



Try this link....



http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/latches.html



Rick S.

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