 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
cliffh(at)outdrs.net
Guest
|
 Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
 |
|
Steve
As you continue to beat this dead horse I would suggest that you talk to the
people at your local FAA office and see how they are going to interpet this
regulation.
I have had several disscussion with the local FAA people as I have some
problems with the restrictions on in- flight adjusable props and
rectractable gear as it pertains to us old high time pilots.
They way the local FAA people are enforceing the regs,. is:
Max Certified gross weight 1320 lbs.for land planes. It doesn't matter what
kind of a airplane. A Kit fox, Avid, Piper J-3, Aronica Champ, etc as long
as the certified gross weight is under 1320 lbs.
If you build a model 5 and have it certified with a gross weight of 1320 lbs
then it would be legal for a sport pilot to fly it.
However the gross weight could never be raised later.
If a model 5 was certified with the gross weight of 1550, It cannot have the
gross weight lowered therefore it would never be legal for a sport pilot to
fly it.
Floran H.
---
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
84KF
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: Re: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
|
|
PART 61—CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND GROUND INSTRUCTORS
Subpart E—Private Pilots
§ 61.103 Eligibility requirements: General.
To be eligible for a private pilot certificate, a person must:
c) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language
§ 61.305 What are the age and language requirements for a sport pilot certificate?
(a) To be eligible for a sport pilot certificate you must:
(2) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand English.
Pg. 44793
Federal Register/ Vol. 69, No. 143/ Tuesday, July 27, 2004/rules and Regulations
The maximum weight of a light-sport aircraft is the sum of:
(1) Aircraft empty weight;
(2) Weight of the passenger for each seat installed;
(3) Baggage allowance for each passenger; and
(4) Full fuel, including a minimum of the half-hour fuel reserve required for day visual flight rules in §91.151 (a)(1).
This is the original "1550 lbs., let's ask dad... post before the thread was broke (again)
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=17318
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
|
|
This is indeed becoming a dead horse. Sort of like one against the world.
A question, though. Steve, are you flying your V as a a LSA?
If so good luck, especially with your liability insurance.
Lowell.
--
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Fox5flyer
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
|
|
Steve, I've been watching your posts carefully and even though they seem to
have some merit, I haven't really made up my mind what the rule really means
nor the time to study it. Maybe it's mostly because once we learn something
one way we have a hard time changing our minds to learn it another way. Too
much work, I guess. Anyway, have you taken this topic up with the EAA? I'm
sure they have someone who is their resident expert who has heard this stuff
before and I'm sure would be happy to respond and settle this discussion.
I'd like to know because someday I may personally need to be clear with the
true facts about it all. If you can obtain something from them, please pass
it to the list so we can rest our confused minds.
As I see it, the only real meaningful advantage of flying as sport pilot is
being able to fly without a medical, so long as you've never flunked one.
Regards,
Deke
---
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
|
|
And being able to get there (flying) quicker, if you're an elderly gent
like myself, and cheaper, in that less training hours are needed.
Lynn
On Saturday, November 4, 2006, at 04:34 PM, Fox5flyer wrote:
| Quote: |
As I see it, the only real meaningful advantage of flying as sport
pilot is
being able to fly without a medical, so long as you've never flunked
one.
Regards,
Deke
|
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
_________________
Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Fox5flyer
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
|
|
Good points Lynn, except for the elderly part. You're just a puppy.
Deke
do not archive
---
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
|
|
A 70-yr-old puppy....let's see...70 divided by 9=7-7/9....yeah, an 8
year old puppy...cool : )
Lynn
Kitfox IV Speedster...Jabiru 2200
do not archive
On Saturday, November 4, 2006, at 07:41 PM, Fox5flyer wrote:
[quote]
Good points Lynn, except for the elderly part. You're just a puppy.
Deke
do not archive
---
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
_________________
Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rjdaugh
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Posts: 195
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: 1550 lbs? Let's ask dad. and I rest my case. |
|
|
Lynn (sir puppy!),
I think you have hit upon the true value of the sport pilot class. If it
gets people flying faster and cheaper, hopefully it will get many more
people flying and give pilots a little clout in the political arena. Then
it will be better for all of us!
Randy - Series 5/7 - 1320 lb certificated gross weight.
.
--
| | - The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List |
|
_________________
Randy
Kitfox 5/7 912S
Black Hills, South Dakota |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
