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billshook2000(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

I really don't think the original complaint would have been made if the original post

wasn't written in a very sales oriented fashion.  We all see and hear commercials every

day where we are bombarded with the website or the company name every other word...which

is how the original was worded.  Whether or not it was a sales pitch is in the eyes of

the beholder but it certainly came across that way.  It was not worded like a guy

recommending a website he uses a lot, it looked and read very much like an advertisement

using the RV-List as a way of spamming people.  



That is not to say it isn't a very good website offered by a very nice guy...it is only

to say that even good services should not be allowed to use this list as

advertisement....elsewise we end up with tons of sales spam to sort through and the list

very quickly becomes unreadable.  If the original post had read something like "hey have

you guys seen this weathermeister.com?  I think it's the bee's knees."  I think it would

have sailed through unmolested.  It did not read that way however...it smelled, tasted,

and had the texture of a sales pitch...which is not read kindly in a place like this.



Just my .02



Bill

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Bob Collins

Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 470
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

//which is not read kindly in a place like this.



Not much is anymore.



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flyboy.bob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

Nobody said it wasn't worth it . . . It probably is worth it if you fly a number of trips.

  

 But the original email in this chain said it was FREE . . . it's NOT  and that's OK . . . it's just not accurate to say it's FREE when it's not!

  

 By the way, I did get a 1 year free trial and it's a very nice product . . .but when the years up . . . no longer free!  

  

 Here is my problem small as it is!  I've used Dan's wx for over a year now, just occasionally, and found if very handy (just the local wx and terminal forecasts for a given radius) . . . most of my flying is local . . . (the radius and forecast went away recently it would be nice if that remained free, but so far it's not!)   

  

 I'm happy the Dan was able to sell his services and make a buck . . . that's his right and more power to him . . . but it's no longer FREE . . . simple as that.

  

 Regards,

 Bob in SE Iowa

 



 

 On 11/10/06, Bob Collins <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net (bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net)> wrote: [quote]--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net  (bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net)>



It cracks me up how folks who have no problem spending tens of thousands of dollars avionics and a gazillion more on stuff in a homebuilt plane that you can't find in a 747, and then go all glassy-eyed at the prospect of spending  $49.95 a year so they're a more informed -- and presumably safer -- pilot. 



Obviously folks have a right not to spend money they don't wish to spend, but there's a bit of an entitlement mentality at work when people who are doing all the work and spending money on servers etc. to provide something free,  all of a sudden get ripped for being compensated for their effort. 



If you don't want to pay, don't pay. But please have the good sense not to belittle even the "free" stuff as "worthless."



At the very LEAST, you got what you paid for. Stop complaining about it. 



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lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

Just MHO



Dan has done a lot for the RV community...! I hope his

weather project does him well. He's a smart man! He's

helped many.



      Darrell Reiley

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Dale Ensing

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 571
Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

Would like to add my .02 that Mr. Shook's comments also express my feeling 

precisely. It felt like I was reading spam.

Dale Ensing

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ktlkrn(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

I sincerely hope that those who have complained  about Dan charging $5 for the use of his weather information also quit using his  web site to assist you in building your plane. I don't find any of the FREE  sites as easy to use as Dan's site.

  

 It shocks me to think that people building and  flying their own RV wouldn't pony up $5 a month for a great site to make their  flight safer and easier to plan. Further, the same people who are complaining  I'll bet have used Dan's site extensively. Knowing Dan, he probably has the  methodology to track who has visited and how much. I'm fairly confident that Dan  isn't ready to order a new Whizbang 5000 as a result of his bank account  growing.

  

 Finally, think of this. If you eliminate any one of  the following list PER MONTH you could have Weathermeister.

  

 1 fast food meal

 1 fancy coffee drink

 1 magazine off a rack

 1 carwash (do it yourself)

 1 pack of cigarettes for those who  smoke

 4 Big Gulps

 1 pay per view movie

 .5 delivered pizza

  

 You get the point.

  

 Darwin N. Barrie

 Chandler AZ

 RV7 N717EE

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smittysrv

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 67

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

So, I take it that if I find a great product or service that can help

another builder, I am going to be accused of being a Spammer?



Lighten up....

Original Message:

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From: Dale Ensing densing(at)carolina.rr.com

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:09:28 -0500

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Weathermeister (SPAM)




Would like to add my .02 that Mr. Shook's comments also express my feeling 

precisely. It felt like I was reading spam.

Dale Ensing

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Bob Collins

Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 470
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

// I sincerely hope that those who have  complained about Dan charging $5 for the use of his weather information also  quit using his web site to assist you in building your plane. I don't find any  of the FREE sites as easy to use as Dan's site.

  

 I'm wonder ing if  any of them have donated to Matt for THIS free service.

  

  

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wdleonard(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

On 11/12/06, Bob C. <flyboy.bob(at)gmail.com (flyboy.bob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		   Nobody said it wasn't worth it . . . It probably is worth it if you fly a number of trips.

  

 But the original email in this chain said it was FREE . . . it's NOT  and that's OK . . . it's just not accurate to say it's FREE when it's not!

  

	
 

Bob, there is a portions of Weathermiester that is still free, and it is very valuable.  Except for winds, it is basicly what he was offering for free before the big upgrade. -- 

David Leonard



Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY

My websites at:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html

 http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html

http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com 

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cjensen(at)dts9000.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

Darwin,

  

 No matter how  illogical, it's the nature of builders to suffer from what I call, the "Baby  Bird Syndrome"....cheap, cheap,cheap.

  

 Chuck Jensen 

 P.S. Even when free, I contributed $25/yr.  I  figure if I can pay Jeppesen hundreds per year to put data, generated at the tax  payer expense, on a flash card, the least I can do is contribute to a  most-excellent site that I find uniquely useful.

 

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jfogarty(at)tds.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

Dan, has done a great job with his website and all that he has done to 

promote Van's and experimental aircraft construction is just great for all 

of us building planes.  From my first visit to his site and through my 

empennage order and now my fuselage and wings his site has been very 

important to me.  Thanks Dan for all your hard work.  I appreciate the value 

of your workmanship and your knowledge.  Hope to meet you someday.  Thanks.



Jim

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: Weathermeister (SPAM)

Actually, as I read it, I absolutely thought it was advertising and well

written advertising at that.  I don't mind Dan getting some bucks back for

all the work he's put in to one of his passions (music, I believe, is

another), but I do think this all came about because of the piece of

marketing that wasn't.  Enough said on the topic, that's for sure.  



John Jessen

  #40328 



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