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 Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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For those who have their birds flying, how did you solve the front seats being so hard to slide when sitting in them?
I'm now at 30 hrs and have had them out twice to silicone lube them. They slide ok for a couple of flights, then get very hard to slide again.
Anybody found a permanent solution to ease the slide?
Grumpy
#40404, 30 hrs and counting
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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I wish Have that problem now.
Hugo # 40456 finish canopy
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From: GenGrumpy(at)aol.com
Date: 2006/11/19 Sun PM 06:38:52 EST
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Front seats hard to slide
For those who have their birds flying, how did you solve the front seats
being so hard to slide when sitting in them?
I'm now at 30 hrs and have had them out twice to silicone lube them. They
slide ok for a couple of flights, then get very hard to slide again.
Anybody found a permanent solution to ease the slide?
Grumpy
#40404, 30 hrs and counting
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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I put white grease on them. They seem to be getting better with 100+ hrs of use. Passenger seat still binds but, it also is getting better.
do not archive
Rob Kermanj
On Nov 19, 2006, at 6:38 PM, GenGrumpy(at)aol.com (GenGrumpy(at)aol.com) wrote:
[quote] For those who have their birds flying, how did you solve the front seats being so hard to slide when sitting in them?
I'm now at 30 hrs and have had them out twice to silicone lube them. They slide ok for a couple of flights, then get very hard to slide again.
Anybody found a permanent solution to ease the slide?
Grumpy
#40404, 30 hrs and counting
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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Grumpy,
Of the 6 seats I have installed and worked with, only one of them was hard to slide. I noticed that it was actually easier to slide with a person sitting in it than without, because you can get the leverage needed. Pushing back is easiest, because you can push with your feet. Pulling forward is harder, but you can grab the bar and pull, which makes it easier. Overall, I don’t think it is every seat. I don’t know if it has to do with the installation of the rails, the plastic slides on the bottom of the seat, or the rails being not-perfectly-straight to start with. Were your rails extremely hard to install? I have noticed that some are and some aren’t.
So, in answer to your question, I don’t know what to say except that not all seats are hard to slide, so you apparently just got lucky….twice. It has also been my experience that they get easier to slide with use, not harder. But, we can’t let our experience dictate truth, they just illustrate it, so saying the seats are hard to slide or easy to slide as truth isn’t accurate. There has to be some explanation why some slide easily and some hard. Have you talked to Van’s or Oregon Aero?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
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Subject: Front seats hard to slide
For those who have their birds flying, how did you solve the front seats being so hard to slide when sitting in them?
I'm now at 30 hrs and have had them out twice to silicone lube them. They slide ok for a couple of flights, then get very hard to slide again.
Anybody found a permanent solution to ease the slide?
Grumpy
#40404, 30 hrs and counting
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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GenGrumpy(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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Jesse, I haven't talked to Van's yet, but intend to do so.
I was hoping someone had experienced similar problems and solved them already.
Mine slide ok for a while after lubing them up, then they go back to very hard to move again, even with me sitting in them. Pulling forward is obviously the hardest to do.
grumpy
In a message dated 11/20/2006 8:23:27 AM Central Standard Time, jesse(at)itecusa.org writes:
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Grumpy,
Of the 6 seats I have installed and worked with, only one of them was hard to slide. I noticed that it was actually easier to slide with a person sitting in it than without, because you can get the leverage needed. Pushing back is easiest, because you can push with your feet. Pulling forward is harder, but you can grab the bar and pull, which makes it easier. Overall, I don’t think it is every seat. I don’t know if it has to do with the installation of the rails, the plastic slides on the bottom of the seat, or the rails being not-perfectly-straight to start with. Were your rails extremely hard to install? I have noticed that some are and some aren’t.
So, in answer to your question, I don’t know what to say except that not all seats are hard to slide, so you apparently just got lucky….twice. It has also been my experience that they get easier to slide with use, not harder. But, we can’t let our experience dictate truth, they just illustrate it, so saying the seats are hard to slide or easy to slide as truth isn’t accurate. There has to be some explanation why some slide easily and some hard. Have you talked to Van’s or Oregon Aero?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
http://www.itecusa.org/
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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I just looked at N415EC today and the same seat that was hard to move
before still is. I thought it was loosening up, but it appears not to be.
Let me know what Van's says (although they probably won't offer much in
the way of an explanation). They might refer you to Oregon Aero. If they
consider the seat defective, then it might be RMA'able. They might just
say, "grease it and deal with it."
Jesse
| Quote: | Jesse, I haven't talked to Van's yet, but intend to do so.
I was hoping someone had experienced similar problems and solved them
already.
Mine slide ok for a while after lubing them up, then they go back to very
hard to move again, even with me sitting in them. Pulling forward is
obviously
the hardest to do.
grumpy
In a message dated 11/20/2006 8:23:27 AM Central Standard Time,
jesse(at)itecusa.org writes:
Grumpy,
Of the 6 seats I have installed and worked with, only one of them was hard
to
slide. I noticed that it was actually easier to slide with a person
sitting
in it than without, because you can get the leverage needed. Pushing back
is
easiest, because you can push with your feet. Pulling forward is harder,
but
you can grab the bar and pull, which makes it easier. Overall, I don’t
think
it is every seat. I don’t know if it has to do with the installation of
the
rails, the plastic slides on the bottom of the seat, or the rails being
not-perfectly-straight to start with. Were your rails extremely hard to
install? I
have noticed that some are and some aren’t.
So, in answer to your question, I don’t know what to say except that not
all
seats are hard to slide, so you apparently just got lucky….twice. It
has also
been my experience that they get easier to slide with use, not harder.
But,
we can’t let our experience dictate truth, they just illustrate it, so
saying
the seats are hard to slide or easy to slide as truth isn’t accurate.
There
has to be some explanation why some slide easily and some hard. Have you
talked to Van’s or Oregon Aero?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
http://www.itecusa.org/
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
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rvreynolds(at)macs.net
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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Have you checked to see if the lower rails are parallel?
Are the seat rails parallel?
Are they "in plane"? Check by running strings (dental floss) in the
form of an X from the front of one side to the back of the other (two
strings).
Richard Reynolds
On Nov 20, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
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I just looked at N415EC today and the same seat that was hard to move
before still is. I thought it was loosening up, but it appears not
to be.
Let me know what Van's says (although they probably won't offer
much in
the way of an explanation). They might refer you to Oregon Aero.
If they
consider the seat defective, then it might be RMA'able. They might
just
say, "grease it and deal with it."
Jesse
> Jesse, I haven't talked to Van's yet, but intend to do so.
>
> I was hoping someone had experienced similar problems and solved them
> already.
>
> Mine slide ok for a while after lubing them up, then they go back
> to very
> hard to move again, even with me sitting in them. Pulling forward is
> obviously
> the hardest to do.
>
> grumpy
>
> In a message dated 11/20/2006 8:23:27 AM Central Standard Time,
> jesse(at)itecusa.org writes:
> Grumpy,
>
> Of the 6 seats I have installed and worked with, only one of them
> was hard
> to
> slide. I noticed that it was actually easier to slide with a person
> sitting
> in it than without, because you can get the leverage needed.
> Pushing back
> is
> easiest, because you can push with your feet. Pulling forward is
> harder,
> but
> you can grab the bar and pull, which makes it easier. Overall, I
> don’t
> think
> it is every seat. I don’t know if it has to do with the
> installation of
> the
> rails, the plastic slides on the bottom of the seat, or the rails
> being
> not-perfectly-straight to start with. Were your rails extremely
> hard to
> install? I
> have noticed that some are and some aren’t.
>
> So, in answer to your question, I don’t know what to say except
> that not
> all
> seats are hard to slide, so you apparently just got luckyâ
> €¦.twice. It
> has also
> been my experience that they get easier to slide with use, not
> harder.
> But,
> we can’t let our experience dictate truth, they just illustrate
> it, so
> saying
> the seats are hard to slide or easy to slide as truth isn’t
> accurate.
> There
> has to be some explanation why some slide easily and some hard.
> Have you
> talked to Van’s or Oregon Aero?
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse(at)itecusa.org
> http://www.itecusa.org/
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
Jesse Saint
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:50 am Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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I have not, but I can't imagine a way to change them if they are not parallel because of the way they attach. I can imagine that even being 2mm out of square from the front to the back of the rails could make a big difference in how they slide, but with 750 nutplates (roughly) holding them in, I can't see a way to possibly change those 2mm.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
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wvu(at)ameritel.net
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Front seats hard to slide |
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Perhaps some of those 750 screws are tighter than others causing a slight
warp in the rails, otherwise I think the only way is to shave some of the
white stuff off somehow ....
Anh
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