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MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
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 Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: Taildraggers |
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Charles sez:
| Quote: | ...There was no tri-cycle gear and so no intimidation about tail
wheels...Several years later the Cessna came out with the tricycle
gear. We referred to the taildragger as "conventional" gear vis a
vis the tricycle.
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Of course, if you go back a few years earlier than that you won't
find any tail-draggers, either. Airplanes had been around for a
couple of decades before the tail wheel became "conventional."
Curtiss, Langley, Dumont, the Wrights--few of their designs used
"conventional" gear until nearly the 1920s.
| Quote: | My instructor was very careful to tell me at the 172 checkout that
one had to be very careful as if the a tail wind caught the 172
right it would tip it on the nose.
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A quick check of the NTSB's record on ground accidents shows that
this is a very infrequent event. Your instructor's comments were
likely the result of his inexperience with this new-fangled
technology.
| Quote: | ...conventional...simply works better and does not really pose any
more challenges than a tricycle.
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The FAA requires pilots without prior tail wheel experience to have a
specific logbook endorsement to fly one. They must think a tail
wheel poses a little more challenge.
Certainly, people become comfortable with what they are familiar with
and often fear the unfamiliar. Those that have mastered any tricky
feat tend to forget the effort it took to learn it in the first place.
Mike G.
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Taildraggers |
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I wonder if the FAA required a similar endorsement when the tricycle
gear first came out? After all, pilots up until then had ONLY
taildragger experience.
Lynn
On Saturday, November 25, 2006, at 02:42 PM, Michael Gibbs wrote:
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The FAA requires pilots without prior tail wheel experience to have a
specific logbook endorsement to fly one. They must think a tail wheel
poses a little more challenge.
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n113gb(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: Taildraggers |
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I am wearing out my DELETE button on all of this repeat tri-gear/tailwheel drivel. In my humble opinion it is very simple. Get some time in both types then make your decision on what you want to fly, then do it. Time to move on, this horse is dead!!
Gary Olson
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Float Flyr
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: Taildraggers |
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I'm not saying the FAA is wrong on this one... In fact they are probably
right. However in other countries around the world there is no tail wheel
endorsement.
It may be interesting to see what countries do have a tail wheel
endorsement. I'll Start:
North of the 49th I don't know of any requirement for an endorsement to fly
conventional gear. There are endorsements for IFR, floats and weight.
Noel
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The FAA requires pilots without prior tail wheel experience to have a
specific logbook endorsement to fly one. They must think a tail
wheel poses a little more challenge.
Certainly, people become comfortable with what they are familiar with
and often fear the unfamiliar. Those that have mastered any tricky
feat tend to forget the effort it took to learn it in the first place.
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Michel
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: Taildraggers |
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On Nov 26, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Werner Keiper wrote:
| Quote: | In Germany you need to have a tail wheel endorsement.
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Same in Norway and taildragger instructors are very difficult to find.
Probably the reason I was very quickly asked, after my endorsement if I
wanted to train to become an instructor myself. It could have been nice
but I didn't wanted to use my Kitfox as a training plane. She is my
loved one and I share her with no one, if not, maybe my son ... but
then only when he asks politely! 
Cheers,
Michel
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kirkhull(at)kc.rr.com
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Taildraggers |
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The requirement for a tail wheel endorsement came about after most students
were learning to fly in nose wheels and there were a number of accidents
when they first tried to fly a tail wheel. The FAA rarely make any changes
until someone dies.
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dafox(at)ckt.net
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: Taildraggers |
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The FAA isn't any different than all the County, State, or Federal
highway departments, someone has to die before they make that
place safe
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