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		george(at)falco.co.nz Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Starter | 
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				Hi  All..
  I thought you may be  interested in this one.
  I have a Skytec NL inline  starter on my Falco.. It has been a great unit but the other day a potentially  dangerous situation occurred.
  I was training a friend to  fly my machine (Yeah yeah.. another story) when I got out all sounded fine and  he duly taxied out for 2 circuits. On his return.. immediately he exited the  runway there was the familiar noise of the ring gear taking a hiding. What  transpired was as the picture suggests... the two screw that hold the end cap to  the starter had vanished. The end cap and gear where then being spring forced on  to the ring gear... not a good situation.. had  the gear managed to engage  the results would have been very nasty.
  If you have one of these  starters I would recommend changing the front screws for a lockable  variety.
   
  Regards
  George Richards
  www.falco.co.nz
   
   
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Starter | 
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				Thanks for the information George.  I was thinking of using a B&C starter and alternator when I get to that point.  Did you consider those and did you decide against them for some reason I should know about.  
    
 Al Aitken  
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Starter | 
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				HI  Al..
  The only  thing stopping me for the B&C was all the info I read on the Sequoia site  with other guys having trouble making them fit. I don't know it they have an  inline version or not now but they didn't when I was buying.
  The Skytec is  a fantastic little unit and spins the prop really well.. this is and will be an  issue for them though. I got the very first one from Rich Chiappe at Skytec so  maybe this has changed on later units. The companies support is second to none  however so I'm sure that this will be remedied if it is likely to be an issue.  
  I will  certainly be changing the screws to something I can lock wire in future  however.
   
  Hope you  project is coming along nicely.
  Cheers
  GR
   
  PS. for  anyone who wondered what happened to my website.. I'm changing servers at  present.. hopefully back again in a couple of days.
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Starter | 
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				George & Listers,
  A third option for starters is a converted Toyota
 Pick Up truck starter. These are marketed by several
 folks for the experimental market. I purchased mine
 from a rebuilder who sells on EBay. See
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-149tfw-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26439QQitemZ4580254772QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-122tfw_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26442QQitemZ4522782279QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
 
 Lycomings manufactured before 1970 use the older 122
 tooth ring gear starters. Although many of the older
 engines have been updated. It's best to count the
 number of teeth on your ring gear.
 Charlie Kuss
 --- George Richards <george(at)falco.co.nz> wrote:
 
 [quote] HI Al..
  The only thing stopping me for the B&C was all the
  info I read on the
  Sequoia site with other guys having trouble making
  them fit. I don't know it
  they have an inline version or not now but they
  didn't when I was buying.
  The Skytec is a fantastic little unit and spins the
  prop really well.. this
  is and will be an issue for them though. I got the
  very first one from Rich
  Chiappe at Skytec so maybe this has changed on later
  units. The companies
  support is second to none however so I'm sure that
  this will be remedied if
  it is likely to be an issue.
  I will certainly be changing the screws to something
  I can lock wire in
  future however.
  
  Hope you project is coming along nicely.
  Cheers
  GR
  
  PS. for anyone who wondered what happened to my
  website.. I'm changing
  servers at present.. hopefully back again in a
  couple of days.
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Starter | 
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				Hi Charlie..
 Unfortunately these side motor style starters don't fit in a Falco.. Things
 are very tight in there.
 Several builders have tried and reported problems... see the skunkworks,
 there is quite a bit written on starters.
 The only comfortable fit is the in-line style of starter.
 I think these starters are how B & C and others started out life. At least
 where they got their first brain wave from.
 
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