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gerf(at)gerf.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

Anyone else have experience with the Safeair1 pitot/static 

plumbing kits ?  I had my pitot/static/transponder check this 

morning ... the pitot/static has a "massive leak" :-/  I think 

I may not have installed the "quick" connectors properly, 

waiting for a call back from Safeair ...



Have others had problems with these gizmos before ?



(Transponder is just fine - thanks Garmin.  Someone else on the 

field wasn't so lucky with their King transponder - brand new, 

dead as a dodo.)

 

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Bob Collins

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Location: St. Paul, Minnesota

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

I'm not that far along the building process to know how it's worked, although I have plumbed the static line with Safe Air. Is it a problem installing the quick connectors properly? You mean there's more than one way to do those?



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gerf(at)gerf.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

Safeair gave me a prompt call back ... apparently its kinda 

hard to install them incorrectly so long as you get the tubing 

cut nice and square and fully seated in the fitting.  I'll 

investigate tonight ...



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 I'm not that far along the building process to know how it's 

 worked, although I have plumbed the static line with Safe Air. 

 Is it a problem installing the quick connectors properly? You 

 mean there's more than one way to do those?

 

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

The tubing and connectors SafeAir use are from the trucking

environment.  They are actually SAE air brake lines and quick connect

fittings used on semi's and other vehicles.  It is extremely unlikely

that you would have a leak of any magnitude without something else

wrong.



  Those types of quick connect fittings can sometimes seem like they are

in but really aren't.  A quick way to be sure is to put a line about 1/4

to 1/2 inch back after you cut the tubing to size.  Once you push the

tube in it becomes very easy to tell if it is seated all the way in.

Another way to tell is by feel as it should slide in fairly easily and

then you will have some resistance for another 1/8th inch as it slides

passed the o-ring before it bottoms out.



Michael Sausen

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gerf(at)gerf.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

Found it !!  The arch of tubing that runs from one static port 

to the other was too short and the hose hadn't seated properly 

at one end.  I blew down the tube, after disconnecting it from 

the instruments, and I could hear the air coming out.



Wow.  Now that its installed properly its amazing - the regs 

stipulate that you cannot have more than 100 ft "leak" per 

minute at 1000 ft - it doesn't leak AT ALL - not after 5 

minutes or 10 minutes.



Don't recall what led me to chose this system, but I'm glad I 

did.  Cool sh**.



On to the next squawk ...



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 Safeair gave me a prompt call back ... apparently its kinda 

 hard to install them incorrectly so long as you get the tubing 

 cut nice and square and fully seated in the fitting.  I'll 

 investigate tonight ...

 

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Dale Ensing

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 571
Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

Would like more info on the Safeair pitot/static line kits. Is there a web 

site with info? Who sells it? Anybody have pictures on web site?

Got many hits on search but not the right stuff.



Dale Ensing

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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

try www.safeair1.com 

It's right on the front page......



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ktlkrn(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

What pitot tube are you using?

  

 I had mine done and was experiencing a leak. I'm  using the Dynon AOA style pitot tube. Turned out the AOA hole on Pitot tube  wasn't  getting sealed in the process. We took off the inpsection panel,  unhooked the pitot tube and went directly on that line. No leaks anywhere.  

  

 I've heard of several others having this same issue  with this tube. Otherwise it would be very difficult to get a leak on these  fittings.

  

 DArwin N. Barrie

 Chandler AZ

 RV7 N717EE

  

  

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gerf(at)gerf.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

I'm also using the Dynon AOA/Pitot.  I had the same issue - I 

called Dynon - it has a "calibrated internal leak" that means 

you can't pressure test the pitot directly - you have 

disconnect the line behind it as you indicate below.



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		   What pitot tube are you using?

 

 I had mine done and was experiencing a leak. I'm using the 

 Dynon AOA style pitot tube. Turned out the AOA hole on Pitot 

 tube wasn't  getting sealed in the process. We took off the 

 inpsection panel, unhooked the pitot tube and went directly on 

 that line. No leaks anywhere. 

 

 I've heard of several others having this same issue with this 

 tube. Otherwise it would be very difficult to get a leak on 

 these fittings.

 

 DArwin N. Barrie

 Chandler AZ

 RV7 N717EE

 

 


	


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smittysrv

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

It's time for me to think "pitot" since I'm close to that point in my wing

construction. So... is there a problem with the pitot system that Van shows

on the plans? Should I consider something different?



Opinions are appreciated!



Smitty

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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

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It's time for me to think "pitot" since I'm close to that point in my wing

construction. So... is there a problem with the pitot system that Van shows

on the plans? Should I consider something different?



Opinions are appreciated!


	


I used Van's stainless steel pitot and after four years it works great and 

it is super simple.  But, if you want heat or AOA or a static port on the 

pitot you will have to use something else.



Bob

RV6

Dale Ensing

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
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Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

I have Van's designed pitot system on my VFR 6A and it works fine. Would not 

change it.

Dale Ensing



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gerf(at)gerf.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

I don't think there's anything wrong with it, I'm sure it works 

just fine on the many planes its installed on.



I went with the Safeair1 plumbing system because, IMHO, its far 

easier and quicker to install.  I think Vans sticks to alum 

tubing for the pitot because its cheap !  Vans pitot "mast" 

isn't heated and doesn't give you an AOA option, so you're 

paying a little extra to get a lot more by going with the Dynon 

or Gretz options.



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 It's time for me to think "pitot" since I'm close to that point 

 in my wing

 construction. So... is there a problem with the pitot system 

 that Van shows

 on the plans? Should I consider something different?

 

 Opinions are appreciated!

 

 Smitty

 http://SmittysRV.com

 

 

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n616tb(at)btsapps.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: Safeair1 Pitot/Static plumbing kits ?

I used the Gretz because I wanted the heated pitot.  I tried to use Van's

static lines and rivets but I made several attempts to get the tubing to

stay on the rivets, but to no avail   I gave up and used the SafeAir kit.  I

am very happy with the fittings, and the ports.  Wish I wouldn't have spent

so much time messing with the tube stuck over a rivet.



On the other hand, others have had good luck with it.  Maybe I did it all

wrong and thus my problems.

Tim

RV-6



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