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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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 Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: tailcone rivets |
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Every bit of this tailcone riveting discussion is being digested by this
builder despite the archives. Thanks! and HA HA!
Keep it up.
John Gonzalez wrote:
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I should have said, "I never placed my weight inside." The saw horses
held it upside down on the flat spots on the rear where the HS sits
and in the front where the longerons are without the most forward top
skin on. Also lay it on it side, right or left because the sides are
flat.
Was on my knees, up inside, like a pup tent, shooting up or out to the
side while the freind was on the outside. Yes, back riveted
everything I could. I got pretty contorted, back, neck and thighs get
twisted and lower legs fell asleep a few times.
I have tried throughout the project to minimize putting any weight on
the parts before complete assembly into a rigid structure. Never want
to build in a warp albeit unlikely with all the indexed dimples and
clecoes, but why risk it. Plus each bulkhead is so flimsy by itself,
but once together with everything else, it's one strong unit.
Make sure you and your helper are on the same rivet!!!!! They cover
the rivet with the plate or bucking bar, on the outside and they
say,"Ready" they you put the back rivet gun tip on the rivet and say"
Ready" then they say, "Go"
Lower the pressure and a quick fire and never fire again, unless you
let them know by going through the same ritual.
The guy that was hunting with Chenny taught me this technique after
his incident. Unlikely that you will have an accident if you follow
this plan. Alcoholic beverages are also not a good thing before
hunting, opps, I mean riveting.
John G.
> From: David Maib <dmaib(at)mac.com>
> Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: tailcone rivets
> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:26:12 -0600
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> John,
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> Shooting from the inside, did you use the back rivet set?
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> David Maib
> #40559
> tailcone
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> On Dec 18, 2006, at 12:14 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
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> <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com>
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> Never had to get inside. Used two saw horses and kept flipping the
> tailcone on its side while I accessed through the open hole in the
> side or top. Open hole is the forward tailcone skin off. Leaning
> in, I was able to use the gun while my partener was on the outside
> with the bucking bar.
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> Put down a lot of foam to protect your knees from the ground. The
> flatness of the tailcone side skins allows all this to happen by
> sitting on the saw horses. Becareful when stretching inside while
> standing, to get at the rivets towards the back, take breaks,
> otherwise you might get a bad cramp in your calves and hamstrings.
>
> John G.
>> From: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com>
>> Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>> To: "matronics" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
>> Subject: tailcone rivets
>> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:34:58 -0600
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>> Anyone have any good advice as to how to get at the top skin
>> tailcone rivets? No one in my family is small. I also worry about
>> climbing around in there and bending or denting somthing. Words
>> from the wiser?
>>
>> Dave Leikam
>> 40496
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jjessen
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: tailcone rivets |
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Bruce, I had to hide them because it's a family web site. That rear shot of your was just to provocative.
Try this: http://www.soundingsresearch.com/RV-10/Techniques/Techniques_08.htm
Also, I noticed some screwy things happening on the site, and at least one person has pointed this out to me. I'll try to get it fixed today. Still an amateur at this stuff.
John Jessen
#40328 (bah humbug to all this Holiday stuff; got me some deburrrrrrrring to do)
| Quote: | From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bruce breckenridge
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:24 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: tailcone rivets
John Jessen recorded how I did mine. I looked on his website, but just couldn't find the pics!
I used a back rivet plate; flipped the cone over on it's top and made sure it was on the plate. Because the cone overhung my table, I could stand in the hole of the missing forward top skin and lean into the cone. To be sure I was flat on the back rivet plate, I used a 1" (or so) round stick-on bubble level laid right next to the rivet I was going to smash. Because it was a little bit of a tight fit between the stringers, I could lean left or right and the cone would rotate until the bubble was centered. I don't recall having to drill out any of the rivets set with this method.
Hopefully, John will pipe in and direct you to his website where this technique is documented.
Bruce Breckenridge
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