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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

Hi  

   

I managed to gibble one of my pieces of 1” x 1” X 1/8” aluminum stock fabbed into a tail cone part. IS there anything *special* about the aluminum stock used by Vans or can I just go and get some from the Home Deport Aviation department.  

   

Inquiring minds need to know.  

   

Les Kearney  

RV10 #40643 – Lost in the empennage  

   

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n8vim(at)arrl.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

I have no idea what they use in Home Depot.. I don't think its 6061. I 

don't think they even label it!



I would skip that part for now, order some more from Van's or Spruce and 

do it with known materials...



-Jim 40384



Les Kearney wrote:



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		   Hi



 I managed to gibble one of my pieces of 1” x 1” X 1/8” aluminum stock 

 fabbed into a tail cone part. IS there anything **special** about the 

 aluminum stock used by Vans or can I just go and get some from the 

 Home Deport Aviation department.



 Inquiring minds need to know.



 Les Kearney



 RV10 #40643 – Lost in the empennage



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ninepapa(at)bendbroadband
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

Les

  

 It looks like the part you are refering to is an  aluminum angle that helps attach the HS to the tailcone.

  

 Probably should get more material  Van's.

  

 John

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jhasbrouck(at)woh.rr.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

Lowes and Home Depot do not sell aviation quality  aluminum as far as I know.  As a matter of fact, I don't know what alloy or  temper the stuff is at the home stores.  Buy from Van's or Aircraft Spruce  the correct raw stock, the stuff at Home Depot is only good for aluminum  windows..

  

 John Hasbrouck

 #40264

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

I tried welding the aluminum found at the Aviation Department of HD to create a carriage with heavy duty castors for my growing tool box.  It was clearly junk aluminum and I won’t go there for aviation grade structural parts.  

     

John Cox #40600   

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney

 Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 11:47 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Aluminum Stock Question  

  

   

Hi  

   

I managed to gibble one of my pieces of 1” x 1” X 1/8” aluminum stock fabbed into a tail cone part. IS there anything *special* about the aluminum stock used by Vans or can I just go and get some from the Home Deport Aviation department.  

   

Inquiring minds need to know.  

   

Les Kearney  

RV10 #40643 – Lost in the empennage  

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toaster73(at)earthlink.ne
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

You will notice too that the home depot/lowes Al  does not have a nice fillet in the corner as the aviation grade.

 -Chris Lucas

 #40072

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

As Chris pointed out, the aircraft grade stuff will probably

have that fillet.  Also, I bought some hardware store stuff

for use in the shop, and I'll tell you it was much more brittle

than the aluminum from Vans.  I decided not even to use it

for my vise jaws, because it just was not nearly as good

in quality.  There's no way I'll use anything but aircraft

grade aluminum for any of the airframe.  If the parts you

messed up are those L brackets with the odd shape, don't

feel bad, I botched mine too on one side. I ordered a foot

of material from Vans and re-did them.  You will always find

use for extra aluminum angle in making brackets for things

as you get into the fuselage/panel/finishing kits, so plan

to stock up.  Buy a couple of 6' or 8' pieces of the

common 1/16" and 1/8" stuff too...you'll use them.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Les Kearney wrote:

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		   Hi

 

  

 

 I managed to gibble one of my pieces of 1” x 1” X 1/8” aluminum stock 

 fabbed into a tail cone part. IS there anything **special** about the 

 aluminum stock used by Vans or can I just go and get some from the Home 

 Deport Aviation department.

 

  

 

 Inquiring minds need to know.

 

  

 

 Les Kearney

 

 RV10 #40643 – Lost in the empennage

ScooterF15

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 136

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

John,

  

 I heard a rumor that you didn't particularly like the aviation  aluminum currently being used by Van's and were now formulating your own alloy  specifically for the RV-10! Is there any truth to that?

  

 If not, my bad.

  

 

  

 Jim

  

 In a message dated 1/20/2007 5:17:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com writes:

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I tried welding the    aluminum found at the Aviation Department of HD to create a carriage with    heavy duty castors for my growing tool box.  It was clearly junk aluminum    and I wonâ€™t go there for aviation grade structural parts.   

       

John    Cox    #40600    

            

   

From:    owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 11:47    AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Aluminum Stock    Question

   

    

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I managed to gibble one of my    pieces of 1â€ x 1â€ X 1/8â€ aluminum stock fabbed into a tail cone part. IS there    anything *special* about the    aluminum stock used by Vans or can I just go and get some from the Home Deport    Aviation department.   

    

Inquiring minds need to    know.   

    

Les Kearney   

RV10 #40643 â€“ Lost in the    empennage   

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

I am late to this discussion so this may have already been said. Aircraft 

Spruce has a catalog entry that explains metal specs for avaition. Van's 

kits contain primarily 6061T6 and 2024T3 AlClad and a small amount of 3003 

in tubing for brakelines etc. Pages 66-67 describe all and extrusion is even 

defined for angles on the top of page 71. check 

http://aircraft-spruce.com/catalog/mepages/aluminfo.php



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speckter(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

Now we know what happens to all those recycled bear cans we emptied.

Gary

40274



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wcurtis(at)core.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

The Lowes/Home Depot aluminum IS 6061 aluminum but there are two problems with it.  First, they do NOT specify the temper so you have no idea if it is T6, and second it has NO radius on the inner sections like the Van's stuff.    Try spruce, just avoid the stuff that they have that also has no inner radius.  http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/mepages/alumangle.php   William Curtis http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/  [quote][b]

kearney(at)shaw.ca
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

Hi 



Thanks for all the info. I found a local metal dealer who sells aviation

grade aluminum and am now the proud owner of 2' of the 6061 stock I

required.  Unfortunately they only had 3/16" and not 1/8" thick stock so I

will check with Van's on Monday to see if there is a problem using thicker

stock (I can't see why as it will fit).



Cheers



Les 

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

I do have a close friend who manages one of the world’s largest anodizing operations but my aluminum foundry pot lines are down due to exorbitant electric rates from all the RV builders working winter hours.  Since VAN is down the street and the QC on such products are acceptable.  I no longer patron HD Aviation Department for production parts.  

     

John Cox 

 the Turbanator #40600   

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of JSMcGrew(at)aol.com

 Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:17 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Aluminum Stock Question  

  

         

John,  

    

   

    

I heard a rumor that you didn't particularly like the aviation aluminum currently being used by Van's and were now formulating your own alloy specifically for the RV-10! Is there any truth to that?  

    

   

    

If not, my bad.  

    

   

    

  

    

   

    

Jim  

    

   

    

In a message dated 1/20/2007 5:17:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com writes:  

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I tried welding the aluminum found at the Aviation Department of HD to create a carriage with heavy duty castors for my growing tool box.  It was clearly junk aluminum and I won’t go there for aviation grade structural parts.  

     

John Cox #40600   

          

  

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney

 Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 11:47 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Aluminum Stock Question  

  

   

Hi  

   

I managed to gibble one of my pieces of 1” x 1” X 1/8” aluminum stock fabbed into a tail cone part. IS there anything *special* about the aluminum stock used by Vans or can I just go and get some from the Home Deport Aviation department.  

   

Inquiring minds need to know.  

   

Les Kearney  

RV10 #40643 – Lost in the empennage  

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 http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew   

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: Aluminum Stock Question

William  

   

I am getting a very fast education on a/c aluminum. The stock I purchase is stamped ASTM B308 which means it is 6061 T6 stock. As well, I made sure that there was an inner radius as well.   

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

   

   

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