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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: nameplate location

Where have you folks attached your nameplates? I've seen them on the 

tail access covers and the cockpit console. It seems like it's up to 

the DAR and what kind of mood he's/she's in, eh? The FAA wants it where 

it "can't be removed during normal service of the plane", so that seems 

to preclude the tail access covers, but I've seen them there on some 

'foxes.



Lynn

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Bill Willyard

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 34
Location: Grandville, Michigan U.S.A.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: nameplate location

I put mine on the tail access cover. The inspector from the FAA didn't say anything against that. I guess the it depends on your (their) definition of "normal service".

 

Bill W. 

 

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Bill Willyard
Classic IV 912UL

morid(at)northland.lib.mi
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: nameplate location

Lynn, I think this is correct.  Well, that's the way I was told anyway.  I

was also told that it's not an FAA requirement, but the DEA so they can

figure out who you are after they shoot you out of the sky which also

corroborates the requirement for them being stainless steel so there'll be

something left for them to verify.  

Seriously, I mounted mine under the stab down low right on the fabric below

the access cover.  A simple aluminum backing plate glued to the inside cover

with the data plate riveted to it.

Deke

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: nameplate location

Thanks Bill and Deke...maybe a call to my intended DAR will answer the 

question. Either that or drill the holes in the plate and wait until 

they show up to actually hang it. Deke, I just talked to Duane and his 

is on the right side of the console...where I remembered it.



Lynn



On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 11:19  AM, Fox5flyer wrote:



[quote] 

 <morid(at)northland.lib.mi.us>



 Lynn, I think this is correct.  Well, that's the way I was told 

 anyway.  I

 was also told that it's not an FAA requirement, but the DEA so they can

 figure out who you are after they shoot you out of the sky which also

 corroborates the requirement for them being stainless steel so 

 there'll be

 something left for them to verify.  

 Seriously, I mounted mine under the stab down low right on the fabric 

 below

 the access cover.  A simple aluminum backing plate glued to the inside 

 cover

 with the data plate riveted to it.

 Deke

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: nameplate location

Lynn I have heard that it has to be permanently attached to metal on the 

airplane.  My neighbor had to move his from the removable inspection plate 

to get his AW certificate from our inspector.  I was thinking of using 

aluminum pop rivets on the horizontal stab cover plates.  These would allow 

me to pass the "permanent" part and yet be removable with a drill.    I'll 

be listening closely for the best solution as I have yet to attach mine.  

Ron NB Or

 	  Quote: 	
		  From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: nameplate location

Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:22:30 -0500






Where have you folks attached your nameplates? I've seen them on the

tail access covers and the cockpit console. It seems like it's up to

the DAR and what kind of mood he's/she's in, eh? The FAA wants it where

it "can't be removed during normal service of the plane", so that seems

to preclude the tail access covers, but I've seen them there on some

'foxes.



Lynn

rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: nameplate location

As another data point.  My inspector OK'ed my point as on the fiberglass,

low and just ahead of the left door.  This Series 7 firewall forward has

this fiberglass permanently attached to the frame.



Randy



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rdmac(at)swbell.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: nameplate location

Lynn,

	I attached my 'data plate' to the fabric right below the left side

access cover on the vertical stab. I riveted it to a back up plate on the

inside of the fabric. Can't take credit for the idea, got that from Don

Smithy I think. It worked out great. The FAA inspectors never even mention

it, which means they approved.

	Roger Mac



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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: nameplate location

I made a metal backing plate and attached it to the

tubing on the right side across from the left side

access panels.  No problem getting it passed and easy

access to the back side if I need it.



I have seen Aeroncas with it mounted on the top of

the fuselage half way between the wing and tail.  Very

easy to read there, but you need a backing plate

mounted to the tubing.



I would suggest not drilling any structural tubing.  I

riveted it to the longeron that olds the fabric out on

the side and epoxied it to the lower structural tubing

on mine.



Kurt S.  S-5/ NSI

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:09 am Post subject: nameplate location

Thanks everybody for all the suggestions about the nameplate/data plate 

locations. I finally called my DAR-to-be and he wouldn't approve the 

tail access covers, so I made a backing plate and placed it behind the 

fabric, below and to the rear of the access cover on the left side, and 

far enough rearward to catch the vertical member that I had made to 

streamline the fin/rudder junction. This member is aluminum, and I 

caught two rivets in it, and the other two go through the fabric and 

the backing plate. Very sturdy, and no chance of buffeting, I'm pretty 

sure.



Lynn

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: nameplate location

Good call Lynn.  Where is your dar coming from?

        Ron NB Ore

do not archive



 	  Quote: 	
		  From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: nameplate location

Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:11:29 -0500






Thanks everybody for all the suggestions about the nameplate/data plate

locations. I finally called my DAR-to-be and he wouldn't approve the

tail access covers, so I made a backing plate and placed it behind the

fabric, below and to the rear of the access cover on the left side, and

far enough rearward to catch the vertical member that I had made to

streamline the fin/rudder junction. This member is aluminum, and I

caught two rivets in it, and the other two go through the fabric and

the backing plate. Very sturdy, and no chance of buffeting, I'm pretty

sure.



Lynn

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: nameplate location

From Pontiac, Michigan...I'm in Grass Lake, MI.



Lynn

On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 02:40  PM, ron schick wrote:



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 <roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.com>



 Good call Lynn.  Where is your dar coming from?

         Ron NB Ore

 do not archive



> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

> Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

> Subject: Re: nameplate location

> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:11:29 -0500

>

> 

>

> Thanks everybody for all the suggestions about the nameplate/data 

> plate

> locations. I finally called my DAR-to-be and he wouldn't approve the

> tail access covers, so I made a backing plate and placed it behind the

> fabric, below and to the rear of the access cover on the left side, 

> and

> far enough rearward to catch the vertical member that I had made to

> streamline the fin/rudder junction. This member is aluminum, and I

> caught two rivets in it, and the other two go through the fabric and

> the backing plate. Very sturdy, and no chance of buffeting, I'm pretty

> sure.

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: nameplate location

Hi Lynn.

  Have you tried Art Nadobny, FAA safety inspector out of the Detroit MISO at Willow Run? He's a great guy, drove 4 hours North to do my inspection and had no problem with nameplate mounted under stab on the access cover of my model II. Also, he scheduled me within a couple weeks of receiving the materials, unlike Grand Rapids FSDO that needed 4 months to get to me. Maybe best of all . . . he'll do your airworthiness inspection for free! Contact me off list if you'd  like his number.

Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:

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		  From Pontiac, Michigan...I'm in Grass Lake, MI.

Lynn

On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 02:40 PM, ron schick wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Good call Lynn. Where is your dar coming from?

 Ron NB Ore

 do not archive

> From: Lynn Matteson 

> Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

> Subject: Re: nameplate location

> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:11:29 -0500

>

> 

>

> Thanks everybody for all the suggestions about the nameplate/data 

> plate

> locations. I finally called my DAR-to-be and he wouldn't approve the

> tail access covers, so I made a backing plate and placed it behind the

> fabric, below and to the rear of the access cover on the left side, 

> and

> far enough rearward to catch the vertical member that I had made to

> streamline the fin/rudder junction. This member is aluminum, and I

> caught two rivets in it, and the other two go through the fabric and

> the backing plate. Very sturdy, and no chance of buffeting, I'm pretty

> sure.

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

Marco Menezes

Model 2 582 N99KX

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Brings words and photos together (easily) with

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: nameplate location

Thanks, Marco...I just sent an email your way.



Lynn

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On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 09:30  AM, Marco Menezes wrote:



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 Hi Lynn.



   Have you tried Art Nadobny, FAA safety inspector out of the Detroit 

 MISO at Willow Run? He's a great guy, drove 4 hours North to do my 

 inspection and had no problem with nameplate mounted under stab on the 

 access cover of my model II. Also, he scheduled me within a couple 

 weeks of receiving the materials, unlike Grand Rapids FSDO that needed 

 4 months to get to me. Maybe best of all . . . he'll do your 

 airworthiness inspection for free! Contact me off list if you'd  like 

 his number.



 Marco Menezes

 Model 2 582 N99KX

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: nameplate location

Sorry Lynn I thought you were in Oregon.  Can't help with FSDO there.  Ron 

NB Ore

  do not archive



 	  Quote: 	
		  From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: nameplate location

Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 19:14:20 -0500






  From Pontiac, Michigan...I'm in Grass Lake, MI.



Lynn

On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 02:40  PM, ron schick wrote:



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 > Good call Lynn.  Where is your dar coming from?

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 >> sure.

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