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don(at)dmack.net Guest
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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I have several 12v, 12ma LED’s from Radio Shack (part 276-272)in my panel.
According to the calculators (15V max Supply, 12V LED, 12ma), I need a
27.0kohms, 1/8w resistor. Two questions:
1) led.linear1.org reports "The wizard thinks your forward voltage spec is
suspiciously high, but will proceed with the calculations.". The input
voltage is listed as 12-16V, 12-20ma, so I ASSuME that the calculation is
correct that it just does not recognize 12v LEDs?
2) Where do I find 1/8w resistors?
Don Mack | don(at)dmack.net | dmack.net
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john(at)ballofshame.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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Well.... you probably put in 12V for the "forward" voltage. 12V should be
the "source" voltage. Your forward voltage is the voltage across the LED
when it's turned on. This voltage will never get much above 2V, or so
(increasing the voltage will simply increase the current and eventually
blow it up, though). It varies a bit depending on the color of the LED.
You should be able to look it up somewhere online what your particular
color needs.
Hope this helps.
-John
www.ballofshame.com
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I have several 12v, 12ma LED’s from Radio Shack (part 276-272)in my panel.
According to the calculators (15V max Supply, 12V LED, 12ma), I need a
27.0kohms, 1/8w resistor. Two questions:
1) led.linear1.org reports "The wizard thinks your forward voltage spec is
suspiciously high, but will proceed with the calculations.". The input
voltage is listed as 12-16V, 12-20ma, so I ASSuME that the calculation is
correct that it just does not recognize 12v LEDs?
2) Where do I find 1/8w resistors?
Don Mack | don(at)dmack.net | dmack.net
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john(at)ballofshame.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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Ok...so I played with the calculator a bit (cool). How's this for
convenient. Click on the question mark next to "forward voltage" and it
will pop up a list of color vs. voltage.
1/8W resitors? Just use a 1/4W.
-John
www.ballofshame.com
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I have several 12v, 12ma LED’s from Radio Shack (part 276-272)in my panel.
According to the calculators (15V max Supply, 12V LED, 12ma), I need a
27.0kohms, 1/8w resistor. Two questions:
1) led.linear1.org reports "The wizard thinks your forward voltage spec is
suspiciously high, but will proceed with the calculations.". The input
voltage is listed as 12-16V, 12-20ma, so I ASSuME that the calculation is
correct that it just does not recognize 12v LEDs?
2) Where do I find 1/8w resistors?
Don Mack | don(at)dmack.net | dmack.net
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bob(at)bob-white.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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Hi Don,
If it's a 12V LED, the resistors are built in. Just connect them to
your 12 V source. Going to 15V or so shouldn't hurt them but you
could add a small resistor to make up the difference. Figure 3v at the
12 ma rating would be a 250 ohm resistor in series. Most LED's have
an actual forward voltage of around 2V.
Bob W.
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:59:15 -0600
"Don Mack" <don(at)dmack.net> wrote:
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I have several 12v, 12ma LED’s from Radio Shack (part 276-272)in my panel.
According to the calculators (15V max Supply, 12V LED, 12ma), I need a
27.0kohms, 1/8w resistor. Two questions:
1) led.linear1.org reports "The wizard thinks your forward voltage spec is
suspiciously high, but will proceed with the calculations.". The input
voltage is listed as 12-16V, 12-20ma, so I ASSuME that the calculation is
correct that it just does not recognize 12v LEDs?
2) Where do I find 1/8w resistors?
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mprather(at)spro.net Guest
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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I don't think there are _any_ LED's designed to use 12v supply directly to
the diode (someone might prove me wrong). However, many electronics
houses are selling LED illuminated lamp fixtures that include biasing
resistors built into the package. The part number you listed appears to
be one of these. It doesn't need any additional biasing to make it work
in a 12V environment. In other words, the forward voltage spec the
calculator expects is for a bare LED.
You can get away with a 1/4th watt or 1/2 watt if those are easier to find
(they will be). The only problem with using the larger rating is that
they will be physically larger (bulkier).
Regards,
Matt-
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I have several 12v, 12ma LED’s from Radio Shack (part 276-272)in my panel.
According to the calculators (15V max Supply, 12V LED, 12ma), I need a
27.0kohms, 1/8w resistor. Two questions:
1) led.linear1.org reports "The wizard thinks your forward voltage spec is
suspiciously high, but will proceed with the calculations.". The input
voltage is listed as 12-16V, 12-20ma, so I ASSuME that the calculation is
correct that it just does not recognize 12v LEDs?
2) Where do I find 1/8w resistors?
Don Mack | don(at)dmack.net | dmack.net
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Peter Laurence
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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Don,
If I read this correctly, The max amps of the LED is 20MA. If this is being
used in your airplane, then it's going to see approx. 13V. This would
require a 13/.020 -- somewere around 650 ohm resistor.
Peter
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I have several 12v, 12ma LED's from Radio Shack (part 276-272)in my panel.
According to the calculators (15V max Supply, 12V LED, 12ma), I need a
27.0kohms, 1/8w resistor. Two questions:
1) led.linear1.org reports "The wizard thinks your forward voltage spec is
suspiciously high, but will proceed with the calculations.". The input
voltage is listed as 12-16V, 12-20ma, so I ASSuME that the calculation is
correct that it just does not recognize 12v LEDs?
2) Where do I find 1/8w resistors?
Don Mack | don(at)dmack.net | dmack.net
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nuckollsr(at)cox.net Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:50 am Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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Check this part out at:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId 62570&cp
It's not very explicit in the listing but examination of the
photos shows a resistor already installed. Further, on one
page, they call this a "12v" LED.
This product can be hooked directly to your electrical system with
NO external resistor needed.
Bob . . .
At 12:34 PM 2/15/2007 -0500, you wrote:
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<Dr.Laurence(at)mbdi.org>
Don,
If I read this correctly, The max amps of the LED is 20MA. If this is
being used in your airplane, then it's going to see approx. 13V. This
would require a 13/.020 -- somewere around 650 ohm resistor.
Peter
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>I have several 12v, 12ma LED's from Radio Shack (part 276-272)in my panel.
>According to the calculators (15V max Supply, 12V LED, 12ma), I need a
>27.0kohms, 1/8w resistor. Two questions:
>
>1) led.linear1.org reports "The wizard thinks your forward voltage spec is
>suspiciously high, but will proceed with the calculations.". The input
>voltage is listed as 12-16V, 12-20ma, so I ASSuME that the calculation is
>correct that it just does not recognize 12v LEDs?
>
>2) Where do I find 1/8w resistors?
>
>Don Mack | don(at)dmack.net | dmack.net
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sales(at)6440autoparts.co Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: Correct resistor for 12v LED |
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They look like they would make a very clean looking and easy install.
Also looks like they have them in green and red.
Randy
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