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ron.butterfield(at)gmail.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: Zenith-List:

On 2/7/07, Brad DeMeo <demeo(at)sonic.net> wrote:

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 I am looking for canopy latch ideas that include a lock.


	


I don't know how well this would adapt to a Zenith, but...



A friend of mine with a Cozy had his canopy latch only exposed to the

inside, then made an access door that had a key lock on it. You would

unlock the access door, reach in, and unlatch the canopy.

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

Hans,

Most of earlier 601s had a header tank that would cause a center panel 

mounted throttle cable to diverge, but would not make it

impossible to do.  The central stick is a great fit for getting in and 

out of the plane and I'd not be without it.  Very natural

feeling right hand stick and left throttle.  I've flown right seat and 

find it just about the same with controls at opposite sides.

Would rather have this than one throttle and two sticks, but it's always 

a matter of preference. Try flying with someone in a 601

and get the feel of it if you can.  If you mount two sticks, you'll have 

a better reason  to make your forward top skin removable for access.



Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

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Hans van Riet wrote:

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 Hi Gang,



 I just ordered the Rudder starter kit to see if I'm fit to build a 

 601Xl (preferably on amphibian floats).

 I've been studying tons of web resources and admired many projects.

 One thing strikes me as odd though and maybe your collective wisdom 

 can shed some light on this:



 I see double throttles on many panels. Why is this done? Would one 

 central throttle with the dual stick option not be sufficient?



 Thanks,



 Hans

dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

My opinion only here..... I view the dual throttle linkage as an unnecessary complication. One center throttle with a friction lock should be totally adequate. I learned to fly in a C-150 with my left hand on the yoke and my right on the throttle. Later, I flew an ultralight with my right hand on the stick and my left hand on the throttle. The moral? It's as easy to fly well one way as the other. 



I like the dual sticks precisely because it allows me to change hands as needed to reach and operate switches and buttons anywhere on the panel. If I'm going to use that benefit, I can ceratinly tolerate the single center located throttle.



Dred



---- Hans van Riet <hansinla(at)mac.com> wrote: 

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Hi Gang,

 

 I just ordered the Rudder starter kit to see if I'm fit to build a  

 601Xl (preferably on amphibian floats).

 I've been studying tons of web resources and admired many projects.

 One thing strikes me as odd though and maybe your collective wisdom  

 can shed some light on this:

 

 I see double throttles on many panels. Why is this done? Would one  

 central throttle with the dual stick option not be sufficient?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Hans

ccwacker(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: Zenith-List:

If you go with the dual sticks you can have one throttle in the center of 

the panel. This is what i am doing. If you go with thestock center stick 

setup the center throttle would be a pain to use. That is why the center 

stick has two throttles on both sides of the cockpit.



Chuck Wacker

610XL Quick Build

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		  From: Hans van Riet <hansinla(at)mac.com>

Reply-To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:57:41 -0800






Hi Gang,



I just ordered the Rudder starter kit to see if I'm fit to build a  601Xl 

(preferably on amphibian floats).

I've been studying tons of web resources and admired many projects.

One thing strikes me as odd though and maybe your collective wisdom  can 

shed some light on this:



I see double throttles on many panels. Why is this done? Would one  central 

throttle with the dual stick option not be sufficient?



Thanks,



Hans




	


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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

central  throttle with dual stick is common sense, look at pipers beech cessna etc, dual steering , central throttle.

you guys kill me

Juan



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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

I have the center Y stick and a single throttle on the left side of the 

panel. I deleted the second throttle on the right because I didn't plan 

to fly it from the right seat and I determined that someone flying from 

that seat could reach across to the throttle on the left if necessary. I 

also don't have brakes on the right. The single throttle simplifies 

construction a bit.



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 I'm doing the single stick and don't see a practical way to avoid the 

 dual throttle.

 


	


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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

amd plane parked in Lantana FLA has dual stick dual throttle,  flew it this week end.  Dual throttle was a waste of space due to the fact that the center (copilot) throttle was more convenient than right hand on stick and left throttle for pilot.  Save you self the hassle if going dual stck, and go single center throttle.



Juan



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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

Since I'm doing dual sticks, I understand the pros and cons of doing that. What I don't understand is why you would install dual sticks AND dual throttles. When you go the dual stick route, the part of the console that extends forward from the armrest and then up to the bottom of the panel is not interferred with by the stick anymore (as it was with the center stick). That makes it the perfect loctaion for a single throttle that is is easy reach from both seats. So again, why complicate the situation with dual throttles?



Dred



---- David Downey <planecrazydld(at)yahoo.com> wrote: 

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		   Has anyone use a dual stick, dual throttle setup? that is sort of what I had been thinking of (you know, a side by side tandem!)

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

I second that .....  joe N101HD

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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: Zenith-List:

Thanks Juan.



Juan Vega <amyvega2005(at)earthlink.net> wrote:  [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Juan Vega 



amd plane parked in Lantana FLA has dual stick dual throttle, flew it this week end. Dual throttle was a waste of space due to the fact that the center (copilot) throttle was more convenient than right hand on stick and left throttle for pilot. Save you self the hassle if going dual stck, and go single center throttle.



Juan



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