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		david(at)carneyaviation.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: AYA 2007 via New York City | 
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				Many pilots flying to the convention at Glens Falls may want to fly the
 Hudson River Class-B exclusion corridor in New York City.  The rules are the
 same as they always were, with one wrinkle.
 
 There is a description of two possible routes at
 http://carneyaviation.com/nyctour/nyctour.htm, including photos of major
 landmarks.  This route is breathtaking - if you've never flown it, you must
 add it to your itinerary.
 
 The wrinkle:
 FDC 3/1862 closes the Hudson River route during NY Yankees home games, and
 closes the route over La Guardia during Mets games.  FSS briefers do not know
 when these games are, but controllers do; and NYC police patrol the airspace
 in helicopters during the games.
 
 Schedules are here:
 Yankees (Hudson R.)  http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
 aMets (LGA transition)  http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym
 
 Yankee Stadium 40-49.6N / 73-55.6 W
 Shea Stadium (Mets)  40-45.2 N / 73-50.5 W
 
 Feel free to forward this to the Grumman Gang.  It's on topic because of the
 convention.
 
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		aa1bflyboy(at)msn.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: AYA 2007 via New York City | 
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				I just sent the fwd.
 
 If I'm right I have no need to be angry;
 If I'm wrong I have no right to be...
 Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L (at) ILG
 
 
 ----Original Message Follows----
 From: "David Feinstein" <david(at)carneyaviation.com>
 To: "Northeast Grummans" <ne-grumman(at)mit.edu>,        "Team Grumman" 
 <TeamGrumman-List(at)matronics.com>
 Subject: AYA 2007 via New York City
 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:18:01 -0400
 
 Many pilots flying to the convention at Glens Falls may want to fly the
 Hudson River Class-B exclusion corridor in New York City.  The rules are the
 same as they always were, with one wrinkle.
 
 There is a description of two possible routes at
 http://carneyaviation.com/nyctour/nyctour.htm, including photos of major
 landmarks.  This route is breathtaking - if you've never flown it, you must
 add it to your itinerary.
 
 The wrinkle:
 FDC 3/1862 closes the Hudson River route during NY Yankees home games, and
 closes the route over La Guardia during Mets games.  FSS briefers do not 
 know
 when these games are, but controllers do; and NYC police patrol the airspace
 in helicopters during the games.
 
 Schedules are here:
 Yankees (Hudson R.)  http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
 aMets (LGA transition)  http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym
 
 Yankee Stadium 40-49.6N / 73-55.6 W
 Shea Stadium (Mets)  40-45.2 N / 73-50.5 W
 
 Feel free to forward this to the Grumman Gang.  It's on topic because of the
 convention.
 
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		mattd(at)drahz.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:43 am    Post subject: AYA 2007 via New York City | 
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				Just as an additional note - since the diagram on the carney site was 
 created, the Class D airspace at KHPN has received some extra space 
 which sticks out.  Last time I flew in that area northeast bound - they 
 would not let me cross directly over KHPN or enter their airspace - and 
 I wound up out over the sound ANYWAY (*and* I was talking to approach 
 and squawking) - a reverse red route.
 
 mattd
 
 
 David Feinstein wrote:
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  Many pilots flying to the convention at Glens Falls may want to fly the
  Hudson River Class-B exclusion corridor in New York City.  The rules are the
  same as they always were, with one wrinkle.
 
  There is a description of two possible routes at
  http://carneyaviation.com/nyctour/nyctour.htm, including photos of major
  landmarks.  This route is breathtaking - if you've never flown it, you must
  add it to your itinerary.
 
  The wrinkle:
  FDC 3/1862 closes the Hudson River route during NY Yankees home games, and
  closes the route over La Guardia during Mets games.  FSS briefers do not know
  when these games are, but controllers do; and NYC police patrol the airspace
  in helicopters during the games.
 
  Schedules are here:
  Yankees (Hudson R.)  http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
  aMets (LGA transition)  http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym
 
  Yankee Stadium 40-49.6N / 73-55.6 W
  Shea Stadium (Mets)  40-45.2 N / 73-50.5 W
 
  Feel free to forward this to the Grumman Gang.  It's on topic because of the
  convention.
 
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		danbrodsky(at)earthlink.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: AYA 2007 via New York City | 
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				If you call up ATC, they will give you a sightseeing flight directly over
 the city as long as they are not busy.
 
 Usually at 1500 to 2500 feet.
 
 This includes when there is a Yankee game going on.
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		david(at)carneyaviation.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: AYA 2007 via New York City | 
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				# Just as an additional note - since the diagram on the carney site
 # was created, the Class D airspace at KHPN has received some extra
 # space ...
 
 .. the chart is now modified.  Thanks for pointing it out.
 
 "not for navigation"
 
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