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rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.n
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Curious



1) What is favorite way of those flying to filter fuel before it goes into

your tank?



2) Has anyone ever tried to put lets say 2 parallel Pro-805 filters in

neck of a funnel? Or would that be too much restriction if you wanted to

complete filling tank before bedtime?



3) What is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when

you are going somewhere away from home? 

a) Don't do it and buy 100LL?

b) Use aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane when

full?

c) Other?



Thx.

Ron Parigoris

Dave Miller

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 51

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Ron,



I don't filter mogas, nor does my friend at the airport with a 914 mono, 

and he has 500+ hours on it with no contamination problems.



Has anyone in the US / Canada sourced one of the 12V transfer pumps 

mentioned by the UK flyers.

Lifting 25 litres to the top of the fuselage is a bit of an effort.



Dave A061





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Curious



1) What is favorite way of those flying to filter fuel before it goes into

your tank?



2) Has anyone ever tried to put lets say 2 parallel Pro-805 filters in

neck of a funnel? Or would that be too much restriction if you wanted to

complete filling tank before bedtime?



3) What is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when

you are going somewhere away from home? 

a) Don't do it and buy 100LL?

b) Use aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane when

full?

c) Other?



Thx.

Ron Parigoris

alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Hi Dave



I supplied these pumps over here in the U.K. and still have a few left

if anyone is interested. I have a second home in Daytona Fl. And will be

over there in June for a month, so if anyone on your side of the pond

wants one of these great little pumps, then I can bring some over with

me and mail them out from there.

Kind Regards



Alan Burrows



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Dave Miller

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Posts: 51

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Alan,



Much appreciated.

If you could let me know the cost including shipping, I will send a money 

order.

It's probably as easy to send from the UK to Canada, as it is to ship up 

from the States, and may be more chance of it getting through without 

taxes being added, 



Thanks,



Dave 





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Hi Dave



I supplied these pumps over here in the U.K. and still have a few left

if anyone is interested. I have a second home in Daytona Fl. And will be

over there in June for a month, so if anyone on your side of the pond

wants one of these great little pumps, then I can bring some over with

me and mail them out from there.

Kind Regards



Alan Burrows



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rholder(at)avnet.co.uk
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

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		   Ron,

 

 I don't filter mogas, nor does my friend at the airport

 with a 914 mono,

 

 and he has 500+ hours on it with no contamination

 problems.

 

 Has anyone in the US / Canada sourced one of the 12V

 transfer pumps mentioned by the UK flyers. Lifting 25

 litres to the top of the fuselage is a bit of an

 effort.

 

 Dave A061


	


Alan's transfer pumps are 3v - they use two D cells ! Not

12 v !



Richard

G-OWWW High Cross, waiting for new Permit return from the PFA

paul.mcallister

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 177
Location: Waukesha, WI USA

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Ron,



I use one of the funnels AC Sprice sell that have a fine mesh filter.  The

claim is that it is fine enough to remove water.  Humping the 6 gallon jerry

cans is getting a bit old though.....



Paul

topglock(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Paul,



Try the 5 gal.  It's lighter... 



Jeff - Baby Blue

171 hours



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Paul McAllister wrote:



Humping the 6 gallon jerry

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		   cans is getting a bit old though.....

 

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alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Sorry Steve



I don't have any pictures left of the pump. I must have wiped them off

my PC. I have supplied a lot of these to Europa owners and everyone

seems to agree they work very well. I can fill my aircraft in a couple

of minutes using the pump and it fit nicely into the neck of a 5 gallon

jerry can, so its quite handy. The batteries seem to last an awful long

time and only need changing about every 3 or 4 months. Let me know if

you want one, the cost is 28UKP or 55 USD which includes postage.

Kind Regards



Alan



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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Well 5 minutes! and the batteries do last ages, and the price has gone

down ! You really need to stand the can on the wing or in my case I but

it on the P2 head rest.

regards

Bob Harrison G-PTAG



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alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Hi Bob

The reason the price went down is because I got the last lot in bulk and

passed on the discount.

Alan



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BEBERRY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

In a message dated 04/05/2006 15:29:25 GMT Daylight Time,  

rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us writes:



3) What  is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when

you are  going somewhere away from home? 

a) Don't do it and buy 100LL?

b) Use  aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane  when

full?

c) Other?





This has long been a bit of a puzzle to me Ron and may - if I get to fly to  

France this year - become a real problem.

 

A friend with a 912 Pulsar carries a 25 litre portable plastic container in  

the back (is this legal) and then has to beg a lift or hire a taxi to the  

nearest petrol station for a fill up.  This always seems to be horribly  

unsatisfactory.

 

Any ideas would be most welcome.

 

Patrick

ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
Guest

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Hi! Alan

You are an angel! Just testing you ! I have no complaints that's why I

spoke well of the pump.

Regards

Bob H 



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Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

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 This has long been a bit of a puzzle to me Ron and may - if I get to fly to  

 France this year - become a real problem.

  

 A friend with a 912 Pulsar carries a 25 litre portable plastic container in  

 the back (is this legal) and then has to beg a lift or hire a taxi to the  

 nearest petrol station for a fill up.  This always seems to be horribly  

 unsatisfactory.

  

 Any ideas would be most welcome.

  



   

Hi Patrick,
	




I'm living and flying in France.

I'm sure you'll have no problem getting a lift to the nearest gas 

station on any airfield here in France. You'll be even more successful 

if you ask ultralight pilots. They virtually always refuel with plastic 

jerrycans.

If you don't have the little pump discussed on this list, remember most 

ultralights are high wings and they always have a step at hand.

If you happen to land at Vienne (LFHH), I'll be glad to take you to the 

petrol station.



Regards,

Gilles Thesee

Grenoble, France

http://contrails.free.fr

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Horizonspace(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Search for "siphon pump" on Google and you will find many sources for  

affordable pumps using 2 "D" Cells.  They are commonly used for kerosene  transfer.

topglock(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

My 912S doesn't care, one way or the other, so I buy whatever is 

available.  I'll use 100LL before using less than 93 octane Mogas...



Jeff - Baby Blue

171 hours



BEBERRY(at)aol.com wrote:



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 In a message dated 04/05/2006 15:29:25 GMT Daylight Time,  

 rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us writes:

 

 3) What  is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when

 you are  going somewhere away from home? 

 a) Don't do it and buy 100LL?

 b) Use  aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane  when

 full?

 c) Other?

 

 

 

 

 This has long been a bit of a puzzle to me Ron and may - if I get to fly to  

 France this year - become a real problem.

  

 A friend with a 912 Pulsar carries a 25 litre portable plastic container in  

 the back (is this legal) and then has to beg a lift or hire a taxi to the  

 nearest petrol station for a fill up.  This always seems to be horribly  

 unsatisfactory.

  

 Any ideas would be most welcome.

  

 Patrick

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

  

  

 

 

 

 

 


	




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Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Jeff B a crit :

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 My 912S doesn't care, one way or the other, so I buy whatever is 

 available.  I'll use 100LL before using less than 93 octane Mogas...



   

> This has long been a bit of a puzzle to me Ron and may - if I get to fly to  

> France this year - become a real problem.

>  

>

>     

In France we have 95 and 98 Mogas.
	




Regards,

Gilles Thesee

Grenoble, France

http://contrails.free.fr

Dave Miller

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 51

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Was there a thread, sometime ago, about the various octane ratings?

If memory serves me, my local Canadian pump says 91MON octane rating, or 

something similar, for the premium fuel.

The 912S and 914 both run well on the available premium fuel, and it 

appears that for the immediate future, ethanol will not be blended into 

the premium fuel here, just into the regular.



Dave A061



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Jeff B a crit :

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 My 912S doesn't care, one way or the other, so I buy whatever is 

 available.  I'll use 100LL before using less than 93 octane Mogas...



 

> This has long been a bit of a puzzle to me Ron and may - if I get to 

fly to 
	


 	  Quote: 	
		  > France this year - become a real problem.

> 

>

> 

In France we have 95 and 98 Mogas.
	




Regards,

Gilles Thesee

Grenoble, France

http://contrails.free.fr

tony.bale(at)virgin.net
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:22 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Hi Ron,

                We buy pump fuel from the car filling stations and transport

in 20l jerry cans - however it is getting increasingly difficult over here

due regulations. Some officious little Hitler waved a document at me the

other day saying metal cans have to be screw top and you can only carry a

small amount. Apparently the answer is to buy unleaded green plastic 5l cans

and lots of them - how stupid is that !!



Back to the question. We transfer using a polythene hand pump and fill via a

chamois lined funnel - we never fail to filter. Only use Avgas when we have

to - mortgagae job over here to buy it !!



Regarding 914 ground temps you asked me about. A friend has the XS tri gear

with 914, afraid to say prolonged taxiing in anything approaching moderate

to high ambient temperatures even with Evans is to be avoided.



PS gear spring works "just dandy"



Tony.



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Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

Tony and all,



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		    fill via a

 chamois lined funnel - 

I just bought a Mr Funnel. Seems to work as advertised.
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   moderate

 to high ambient temperatures even with Evans is to be avoided.

   


	


No wonder. Using Evans will definitely *increase* operating 

temperatures, due to its lesser specific heat.



Regards,

Gilles Thesee

Grenoble, France

http://contrails.free.fr

ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
Guest

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel?

See :

http://www.turtlepac.com/sportair.htm

But not UK-legal.



Duncan McF.

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