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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:31 am    Post subject: Windows - again Reply with quote

Has anyone chosen not to glass over the gap between the windows and the fuse/doors? If so, A. what did you use as a filler, and B. would you do it the same way if you had to do it again?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:26 am    Post subject: Windows - again Reply with quote

I used lord adhesive and two ply of glass on top. Just about to go to paint, so mine is too new. No cracks yet.

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Has anyone chosen not to glass over the gap between the windows and the fuse/doors? If so, A. what did you use as a filler, and B. would you do it the same way if you had to do it again?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Windows - again Reply with quote

This is kind of an apples to oranges answer, but there's a write-up in the archives from Feb 2008 about using silpruf to install the cabin and door windows. This technique doesn't glass over the seam.
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Has anyone chosen not to glass over the gap between the windows and the fuse/doors?  If so, A. what did you use as a filler, and B. would you do it the same way if you had to do it again?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:57 am    Post subject: Windows - again Reply with quote

I used the Vans method of adhering the windows than used 1-2 ply of glass
over the gap. I than used micro (more epoxy than micro) to smooth it all
out. It worked for me and I would do it the same way again. If it should
eventually crack or not work than I would need to reconsider.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: Windows - again Reply with quote

Mark Cooper (aka CharlieWaffles on VAF) went with an alternate install process that avoids glassing over the seam. Check it out:

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=87765

You can also read about it on his blog:
Myrv10factory.wordpress.com

Since he just installed and isn't flying, he won't be able to comment on the success (crack avoidance) for a while but I can tell you that it turned out looking very nice.

David


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: Windows - again Reply with quote

Mark's methods is very similar in look to the SilPruf style that Dave Saylor
referred to in the archives. I think the Lord Epoxy Mark used probably has
a stronger bond than SilPruf but that is just a hunch as I have not tested
it. SilPruf is softer and more flexible than the Lord Epoxy. It works well
as the "filler" for the transition from transparency to canopy. Dave Saylor
will have to comment as to how well the silpruf has worked for him over
time.

I glued in my rear windows w/SilPruf but I am not flying.

-Ben



Mark Cooper (aka CharlieWaffles on VAF) went with an alternate install
process that avoids glassing over the seam. Check it out:

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=87765

You can also read about it on his blog:
Myrv10factory.wordpress.com

Since he just installed and isn't flying, he won't be able to comment on the
success (crack avoidance) for a while but I can tell you that it turned out
looking very nice.

David

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows - again Reply with quote

I used 1" RC model airplane fiberglass tape by Great Planes, available at most hobby shops. It is a nice tight weave product that is fairly easy to work with and blend out.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Windows - again Reply with quote

I did the same as Myron, installed windows per plans as far as the adhesive
goes and used the 1 inch RC tape. It was easy to work with but I do have
some hair line cracking at 430 hours.
Perhaps the RC tape is too light, maybe two layers?

Dick Sipp
430 hours

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Windows - again Reply with quote

The only thing I'm not thrilled with is that the SilPruf has weathered a bit between the window and the cabin top.  But it's not that bad, maybe some elbow grease would clean it up.  I notice it stays a little chalky after I clean the rest of the plane but it's still soft and pliable so I'm not worried at all about the bond.

We've been flying for almost five years.
Dave Saylor
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On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ben Westfall <rv10(at)sinkrate.com (rv10(at)sinkrate.com)> wrote:
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Mark's methods is very similar in look to the SilPruf style that Dave Saylor
referred to in the archives.  I think the Lord Epoxy Mark used probably has
a stronger bond than SilPruf but that is just a hunch as I have not tested
it.  SilPruf is softer and more flexible than the Lord Epoxy.  It works well
as the "filler" for the transition from transparency to canopy.  Dave Saylor
will have to comment as to how well the silpruf has worked for him over
time.

I glued in my rear windows w/SilPruf but I am not flying.

-Ben



--> RV10-List message posted by: "dhmoose" <dhmoose(at)yahoo.com (dhmoose(at)yahoo.com)>

Mark Cooper (aka CharlieWaffles on VAF) went with an alternate install
process that avoids glassing over the seam.  Check it out:

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=87765

You can also read about it on his blog:
Myrv10factory.wordpress.com

Since he just installed and isn't flying, he won't be able to comment on the
success (crack avoidance) for a while but I can tell you that it turned out
looking very nice.

David

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Empennage - Done
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Portland, OR





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