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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: My final word on how I feel Reply with quote

Indeed he did. Remember it was Lenin that coined the phrase "Forward". So there is a big cross roads coming on Americans on 6 Nov 2012. The vote you cast will have long reaching effects for not only America but the world. The future of general aviation is at stake also among many other issues. The choice is a simple one. An increased Nanny State with more entitlements or preservation of the Republic by preservation of our Constitutional rights.
The choice is will be yours to make of your free will. Will it be so in 3 years? Will we still have a free airspace unencumbered by user fees and TSA/ Homeland Security bureaucracy? The list is long that could be gashed over. The camel has his nose under our tent what we do from here will determine if if ransacks the tent.
Vote wisely. "The heart of a wise man is at his right hand. The heart of a fool is at his left hand"
Ecclesiastes
"Communism. Lousy politics. Great airplanes" your vote will determine which we enjoy in the future.
McCarthyism, you have your head in the sand or somewhere else.
Doc
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On Nov 2, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Richard Hess <hess737(at)aol.com (hess737(at)aol.com)> wrote:

[quote]During the LA riots didn't Rodney King say, "Can't we all just get along?" Smile

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Rico Jaeger <rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us (rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us)> wrote:
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No offense guys, but you sure find a lot of things to bicker over. Perhaps we should focus on the positives and our commonalities. We're (theoretically) here due to our love of aviation and loyalty to some intriguing aircraft. Let's face it - if you're blessed enough to be actively involved in aviation, you're probably doing OK in life. There are people out there with very challenging struggles shivering through the night and praying for the possibility of one more meal. No one presidency got us into this mess and no one presidency is going to deliver us. Cast your vote, hope for the best and live the best life you are able to muster. But let's not turn on each other because we have differing political views when we should be uniting to celebrate and develop what we are so fortunate to participate in. We are all drawn in many different directions in life due to upbringing, financial status, spirituality, etc. But we are all HERE because there's a red star somewhere on our airframe. (or in our hearts) My folks taught me to live by "if you can't say anything nice..." I think we can invest a little effort in looking past what we deem to be others' short-comings and focus on what we're here for. Let's leave the mud-slinging to the candidates...and BOTH sides, unfortunately, thrive on it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:27 am    Post subject: My final word on how I feel Reply with quote

I believe Lenin said it doesn't matter who votes. Only matters who counts the ballots !!!

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com (viperdoc(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
[quote]Indeed he did. Remember it was Lenin that coined the phrase "Forward". So there is a big cross roads coming on Americans on 6 Nov 2012. The vote you cast will have long reaching effects for not only America but the world. The future of general aviation is at stake also among many other issues. The choice is a simple one. An increased Nanny State with more entitlements or preservation of the Republic by preservation of our Constitutional rights.
The choice is will be yours to make of your free will. Will it be so in 3 years? Will we still have a free airspace unencumbered by user fees and TSA/ Homeland Security bureaucracy? The list is long that could be gashed over. The camel has his nose under our tent what we do from here will determine if if ransacks the tent.
Vote wisely. "The heart of a wise man is at his right hand. The heart of a fool is at his left hand"
Ecclesiastes
"Communism. Lousy politics. Great airplanes" your vote will determine which we enjoy in the future.
McCarthyism, you have your head in the sand or somewhere else.
Doc
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On Nov 2, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Richard Hess <hess737(at)aol.com (hess737(at)aol.com)> wrote:

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During the LA riots didn't Rodney King say, "Can't we all just get along?" Smile

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Rico Jaeger <rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us (rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us)> wrote:
Quote:
No offense guys, but you sure find a lot of things to bicker over. Perhaps we should focus on the positives and our commonalities. We're (theoretically) here due to our love of aviation and loyalty to some intriguing aircraft. Let's face it - if you're blessed enough to be actively involved in aviation, you're probably doing OK in life. There are people out there with very challenging struggles shivering through the night and praying for the possibility of one more meal. No one presidency got us into this mess and no one presidency is going to deliver us. Cast your vote, hope for the best and live the best life you are able to muster. But let's not turn on each other because we have differing political views when we should be uniting to celebrate and develop what we are so fortunate to participate in. We are all drawn in many different directions in life due to upbringing, financial status, spirituality, etc. But we are all HERE because there's a red star somewhere on our airframe. (or in our hearts) My folks taught me to live by "if you can't say anything nice..." I think we can invest a little effort in looking past what we deem to be others' short-comings and focus on what we're here for. Let's leave the mud-slinging to the candidates...and BOTH sides, unfortunately, thrive on it.

Written with the sincerest of positive intentions...






On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)> wrote:
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Forged birth certificates?
I fully agree: do unsubscribe please, ASAP!!!!

Jan

On 02/11/12 05:50, "mmayfield" <mmayfield(at)ozemail.com.au (mmayfield(at)ozemail.com.au)> wrote:

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Oh great.

I thought McCarthyism died out decades ago. Looks like it is being
>revived right here on the Yak List. Surprised it hasn't yet descended

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into talk of forged birth certificates.

Probably a good reason for me to unsubscribe if I have to continue
reading this drivel.
>

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: My final word on how I feel Reply with quote

Even though this is exactly the place to talk about everything and all that affects our pilot community, some get weak at the knees at political discussion or polite disagreement. There is nothing wrong with a good debate of the ideas. This country was set up and founded on the idea that people can disagree, call each other names,voice an opposing oppinion and in the end come back together while preparing for the next battle. This is the basis of our political process and what makes this country great. That being said, I am well aware of the horror some people get riddled with when political talk enters the room. So, those of you that enjoy polite political discussion and oppinions, no matter what your leanings, I have a facebook page where this takes place on a daily basis. Some of the forum are already participants and all are welcome. If you feel the need to vent or have an open discussion, I invite you to come join.



Larry Pine



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Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 7:23 AM
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I believe Lenin said it doesn't matter who votes. Only matters who counts the ballots !!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com (viperdoc(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
[quote] Indeed he did. Remember it was Lenin that coined the phrase "Forward". So there is a big cross roads coming on Americans on 6 Nov 2012. The vote you cast will have long reaching effects for not only America but the world. The future of general aviation is at stake also among many other issues. The choice is a simple one. An increased Nanny State with more entitlements or preservation of the Republic by preservation of our Constitutional rights.
The choice is will be yours to make of your free will. Will it be so in 3 years? Will we still have a free airspace unencumbered by user fees and TSA/ Homeland Security bureaucracy? The list is long that could be gashed over. The camel has his nose under our tent what we do from here will determine if if ransacks the tent.
Vote wisely. "The heart of a wise man is at his right hand. The heart of a fool is at his left hand"
Ecclesiastes
"Communism. Lousy politics. Great airplanes" your vote will determine which we enjoy in the future.
McCarthyism, you have your head in the sand or somewhere else.
Doc
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 2, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Richard Hess <hess737(at)aol.com (hess737(at)aol.com)> wrote:

Quote:
During the LA riots didn't Rodney King say, "Can't we all just get along?" Smile

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Rico Jaeger <rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us (rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us)> wrote:
Quote:
No offense guys, but you sure find a lot of things to bicker over. Perhaps we should focus on the positives and our commonalities. We're (theoretically) here due to our love of aviation and loyalty to some intriguing aircraft. Let's face it - if you're blessed enough to be actively involved in aviation, you're probably doing OK in life. There are people out there with very challenging struggles shivering through the night and praying for the possibility of one more meal. No one presidency got us into this mess and no one presidency is going to deliver us. Cast your vote, hope for the best and live the best life you are able to muster. But let's not turn on each other because we have differing political views when we should be uniting to celebrate and develop what we are so fortunate to participate in. We are all drawn in many different directions in life due to upbringing, financial status, spirituality, etc. But we are all HERE because there's a red star somewhere on our airframe. (or in our hearts) My folks taught me to live by "if you can't say anything nice..." I think we can invest a little effort in looking past what we deem to be others' short-comings and focus on what we're here for. Let's leave the mud-slinging to the candidates...and BOTH sides, unfortunately, thrive on it.

Written with the sincerest of positive intentions...






On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)> wrote:
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>

Forged birth certificates?
I fully agree: do unsubscribe please, ASAP!!!!

Jan

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Oh great.

I thought McCarthyism died out decades ago. Looks like it is being
revived right here on the Yak List. Surprised it hasn't yet descended
into talk of forged birth certificates.

Probably a good reason for me to unsubscribe if I have to continue
reading this drivel.

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>

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: My final word on how I feel Reply with quote

Well said Doc! Our EAA chapter just had CarolAnn Garratt (multiple round the world single engine flights) as a speaker. Just hearing the difficulties for GA around the world sends chills up my spine. Even Europe is very difficult. We must stop the move toward socialism in this country or face the same restrictions on our everyday flying.

Jim Burke

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Indeed he did. Remember it was Lenin that coined the phrase "Forward". So there is a big cross roads coming on Americans on 6 Nov 2012. The vote you cast will have long reaching effects for not only America but the world. The future of general aviation is at stake also among many other issues. The choice is a simple one. An increased Nanny State with more entitlements or preservation of the Republic by preservation of our Constitutional rights.
The choice is will be yours to make of your free will. Will it be so in 3 years? Will we still have a free airspace unencumbered by user fees and TSA/ Homeland Security bureaucracy? The list is long that could be gashed over. The camel has his nose under our tent what we do from here will determine if if ransacks the tent.
Vote wisely. "The heart of a wise man is at his right hand. The heart of a fool is at his left hand"
Ecclesiastes
"Communism. Lousy politics. Great airplanes" your vote will determine which we enjoy in the future.
McCarthyism, you have your head in the sand or somewhere else.
Doc
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 2, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Richard Hess <hess737(at)aol.com (hess737(at)aol.com)> wrote:

[quote] During the LA riots didn't Rodney King say, "Can't we all just get along?" Smile

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Rico Jaeger <rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us (rijaeger(at)wausau.k12.wi.us)> wrote:
Quote:
No offense guys, but you sure find a lot of things to bicker over. Perhaps we should focus on the positives and our commonalities. We're (theoretically) here due to our love of aviation and loyalty to some intriguing aircraft. Let's face it - if you're blessed enough to be actively involved in aviation, you're probably doing OK in life. There are people out there with very challenging struggles shivering through the night and praying for the possibility of one more meal. No one presidency got us into this mess and no one presidency is going to deliver us. Cast your vote, hope for the best and live the best life you are able to muster. But let's not turn on each other because we have differing political views when we should be uniting to celebrate and develop what we are so fortunate to participate in. We are all drawn in many different directions in life due to upbringing, financial status, spirituality, etc. But we are all HERE because there's a red star somewhere on our airframe. (or in our hearts) My folks taught me to live by "if you can't say anything nice..." I think we can invest a little effort in looking past what we deem to be others' short-comings and focus on what we're here for. Let's leave the mud-slinging to the candidates...and BOTH sides, unfortunately, thrive on it.

Written with the sincerest of positive intentions...






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I fully agree: do unsubscribe please, ASAP!!!!

Jan

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Oh great.

I thought McCarthyism died out decades ago. Looks like it is being
revived right here on the Yak List. Surprised it hasn't yet descended
into talk of forged birth certificates.

Probably a good reason for me to unsubscribe if I have to continue
reading this drivel.

--------
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>

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