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vetdrem

Joined: 20 Nov 2007
Posts: 62

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

I just completed another 1200 mile trip with the Kitfox safely tucked in it's trailer.  We didn't have any issues at all, and that makes about 3500 or 3600 trouble-free miles towing it.



The point of this posting is to let everyone know that even though flying it from one place to another is a lot more fun, you can safely take your plane with you even if you can't fly it there.



It just takes a little planning, the proper set up, and the desire to have your plane with you. 



The comments about properly supporting the tail and the wings are all important issues and MUST be addressed, but they are easily taken care of.



Louie

bjones(at)dmv.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

I have enjoyed flying my Kitfox IV over fabulous scenery all across the US 

while enjoying the advantages of having use of my 3/4 ton Yukon XL tow vehicle 

to explore those same areas by road with my wife, while having the advantage of 

carrying an extensive compliment of luggage, gear, coolers etc. With over 

25,000 miles over the road while in an enclosed car trailer I am unaware of any 

damage to the well supported, and padded airframe. The plane remains clean and 

dry. The trailer also serves as a mobile maintanence, parts and supplies 

hanger. When traveling alone the trailer serves as an bare bones RV (with bed, 

shower, head, air-conditioning, little Honda generator etc,). When traveling 

alone, I rarely overnight at commercial camp grounds as a matter of personal 

convenience and cost savings, preferring small general aviation airports where 

I have been ubiquitously well received with a little bit of careful and 

curteous communication in advance. Nearby Wal-Marts, rest areas and truck stops 

can also serve as convenient no cost overnight stops. We winter at our home in 

the Florida Keys (incredible flying scenery) and Summer at our place on the 

Chesapeake Bay avoiding Florida hurricanes.  

Have Fun!

Bob J

N154K

443-480-1023

bjones(at)dmv.com





Quoting vetdrem <vetdrem(at)hotmail.com>:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I just completed another 1200 mile trip with the Kitfox safely tucked in it's

 trailer.  We didn't have any issues at all, and that makes about 3500 or 3600

 trouble-free miles towing it.

 

 The point of this posting is to let everyone know that even though flying it

 from one place to another is a lot more fun, you can safely take your plane

 with you even if you can't fly it there.

 

 It just takes a little planning, the proper set up, and the desire to have

 your plane with you. 

 

 The comments about properly supporting the tail and the wings are all

 important issues and MUST be addressed, but they are easily taken care of.

 

 Louie

 

 

 

 

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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167245#167245

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


	




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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

Has anyone ever looked at this trailer from northern tools?:



http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_465468_465468



At $200, I can't buy the parts to build a trailer for less. I wondered about the feasibility of converting this trailer for towing a Kitfox.

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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)

Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

Float Flyr asked

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		  I use my ramps to trap my main gear. Do you support your tail when towing or leave all the weight on the tailspring? 	




Noel, I'll answer in this thread as it is about trailering.  I tried to design ramps like yours but wanted them long to have a shallow angle to pull the plane up.  I keep my Kitfox at home and trailer for each flight  The ramps are too long to fold back to trap the tires.  They would hit the wing support braces.



I made some wheel tie downs out of two 16 foot ratchet straps.   The tail is supported by the triangular shaped plywood that is hinged to fold down out of the way of the rudder horn when loading and unloading.  I can unload and be ready to preflight in 15 minutes now.



To load, I set the tail on the trailer to fold the wings, then pull the plane up the ramps with a small boat trailer winch.  I weighed the tail with the wings folded.  It weighs 175 pounds.



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503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Luis,

   

  I'd be concerned about its load capacity. Also, IMHO those little bitty wheels might prove problematic for anything but very short trips on very smooth roads.

  



wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com> wrote:

  [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" 



Has anyone ever looked at this trailer from northern tools?:



http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_465468_465468



At $200, I can't buy the parts to build a trailer for less. I wondered about the feasibility of converting this trailer for towing a Kitfox.



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Luis Rodriguez

Model IV 1200

Rotax 912UL

Flying Weekly

Laurens, SC (34A)





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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Tom:



It's been a while now since I had my plane on wheels but I used to put the

plane in the towing position and tied down, with the tail up on a support

before folding my wings.  Doing it that way I could easily carry the plane

all the way back to the point where the mains touched my ramps.  From that

point, like yourself I used a light boat winch.  



Taking the plane off the trailer was the reverse of loading.  I would spread

the wings before untying and I would also use the winch to lower the mains

to the ground on the ramps... 



Thanks for the reply



Noel



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Kitfox III-A
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on.  It’s way too small for the Kitfox.  It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, but the deck frame is only 4’ wide by 8’ long, and maximum load is 1000 pounds.  It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck frame, lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, lengthen the trailer reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it.   

   

 The small tires (12” wheels) are turning about 1 ½ times faster than the 15” tow vehicle wheel speeds making them more susceptible to failure at highway speeds.   

   

My ATV weighs about 350 – 400 pounds and with the extra gas cans, ramps, ropes and assorted tools and gear, that trailer is pretty well loaded.    

   

John Hart  

     

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes

 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:55 AM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: Trailering my Kitfox  

  

     

Luis,  

    

   

    

I'd be concerned about its load capacity. Also, IMHO those little bitty wheels might prove problematic for anything but very short trips on very smooth roads.  

    



 

 wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com> wrote:  

  [quote]  

--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" 

 

 Has anyone ever looked at this trailer from northern tools?:

 

 http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_465468_465468

 

 At $200, I can't buy the parts to build a trailer for less. I wondered about the feasibility of converting this trailer for towing a Kitfox.

 

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 Luis Rodriguez

 Model IV 1200

 Rotax 912UL

 Flying Weekly

 Laurens, SC (34A)

 

 

 

 

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Looks like it might work, but figure another $100 for wheels/tires  

(from them), shipping cost, and a jack. I didn't see the overall  

width listed either. It sure sounds do-able, though. I trailered my  

unfinished kit on a converted boat trailer, then added all the rails,  

lights, and hold-downs necessary after I finished the plane. It WOULD  

be nice to see how well this trailer is constructed before buying,  

though.

Heck, I'd buy one just for trailering lawn mowers, small snowplows,  

trash, etc.

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/475+ hrs

do not archive

On Mar 7, 2008, at 9:05 AM, wingnut wrote:



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 Has anyone ever looked at this trailer from northern tools?:



 http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ 

 product_6970_465468_465468



 At $200, I can't buy the parts to build a trailer for less. I  

 wondered about the feasibility of converting this trailer for  

 towing a Kitfox.



 --------

 Luis Rodriguez

 Model IV 1200

 Rotax 912UL

 Flying Weekly

 Laurens, SC (34A)





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168222#168222

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N369LM

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

Thanks to all for the helpful responses. I see that the over all length would need to be increased. 



As for the width, I don't have a problem with adding supports to capture the main wheels but would the axle really need to be lengthened?  Is it a question of the trailer being prone to rolling over? What's a good length for the axles? 



As for the load capacity, I thought 1000 pounds would be just right? The airplane only weighs 650 lbs empty and I thought that matching the trailer capacity to the airplane weight would provide the smoothest ride...



Also, I guess I should mention that this would be for short hauls to get the airplane to and from the local airport on those occasions when the winds are not favorable for landing at the short strip at my farm.



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		  I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on.ï¿½ Itâ€™s way too small for the Kitfox.ï¿½ It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, but the deck frame is only 4â€™ wide by 8â€™ long, and maximum load is 1000 pounds.ï¿½ It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck frame, lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, lengthen the trailer reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it.

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Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)

Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

I agree with everthing John says here. Though I think you could probably 

widen the frame without changing the axle width. I've also had one of 

these trailers except it was from Harbor Freight. About the only thing 

right about this as a basis for a Kitfox trailer is the load rating. I'd 

first try to find a good used light weight boat trailer with of similar 

load rating. You will still need to modify it, but not as much.

Another thing is Nothern Tools seems to have a good trailer component 

selection for modifications or building a trailer. If you could find a 

suitable trailer with a bad axle or too stiff suspension you could 

replace it yourself.



-- 

Rex Hefferan

SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs

John W. Hart wrote:



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		   I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on. It’s way too 

 small for the Kitfox. It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, but the 

 deck frame is only 4’ wide by 8’ long, and maximum load is 1000 

 pounds. It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck frame, 

 lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, lengthen the 

 trailer reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it.



 The small tires (12” wheels) are turning about 1 ½ times faster than 

 the 15” tow vehicle wheel speeds making them more susceptible to 

 failure at highway speeds.



 My ATV weighs about 350 – 400 pounds and with the extra gas cans, 

 ramps, ropes and assorted tools and gear, that trailer is pretty well 

 loaded.



 John Hart

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Rex
N740GP - M2/582
Colorado

bjones(at)dmv.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Consider putting the Kitfox tail up on a small trailer while the wings are 

extended, then swinging the wings closed and trailering to or from the nearby 

airport using the planes main gear. I do this routinely for short distances on 

good roads where unacceptable traffic conditions are not an issue.

N154K

Bob J 

443-480-1023

do not archive



 good roQuoting wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Thanks to all for the helpful responses. I see that the over all length would

 need to be increased. 

 

 As for the width, I don't have a problem with adding supports to capture the

 main wheels but would the axle really need to be lengthened?  Is it a

 question of the trailer being prone to rolling over? What's a good length for

 the axles? 

 

 As for the load capacity, I thought 1000 pounds would be just right? The

 airplane only weighs 650 lbs empty and I thought that matching the trailer

 capacity to the airplane weight would provide the smoothest ride...

 

 Also, I guess I should mention that this would be for short hauls to get the

 airplane to and from the local airport on those occasions when the winds are

 not favorable for landing at the short strip at my farm.

 

 

 > I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on.ï¿½ Itâ€™s way too

 small for the Kitfox.ï¿½ It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, but the

 deck frame is only 4â€™ wide by 8â€™ long, and maximum load is 1000

 pounds.ï¿½ It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck frame,

 lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, lengthen the trailer

 reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it. 

 > 

 

 

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 Luis Rodriguez

 Model IV 1200

 Rotax 912UL

 Flying Weekly

 Laurens, SC (34A)

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168253#168253

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


	




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n85ae

Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 403

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

Anybody who can build a Kitfox can build a trailer. I bought a Mig welder,

gas bottle, chop saw and an angle grinder, plus all the steel, wheels, axles,

etc. to build my first trailer for less than $1000. I never welded before, 

after a few evenings reading and practicing got where I can make decent 

welds.



The chop saw and the angle grinder are the real secret. With a good

chop saw you can cut 2x2 structural steel tubing like butter, and the

mig welder is very easy to use (with practice).



Since then I have built two other trailers, not to mention become the neighborhood welder for bicycle repairs, etc.



Invest in the tools and materials it isn't that expensive, and you will

get a much nicer product. The bolt together Northern Kit is sold by

several other companies as well. I have built one. It is a complete

bolt together kit and would not be worth it to try to convert. It is a 

very light duty trailer.



Jeff

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

Sounds like building is the way to go then. I happen to already own a MIG welder, chop saw and angle grinder so I had thought that building would be a no-brainer. But when I saw this $200 bolt together trailer it got me wondering. 



Anyone happen to know where I can get plans for a suitable trailer?



[/quote]Anybody who can build a Kitfox can build a trailer. I bought a Mig welder, gas bottle, chop saw and an angle grinder, plus all the steel, wheels, axles, etc. to build my first trailer for less than $1000. I never welded before, after a few evenings reading and practicing got where I can make decent 

welds. [/quote]

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Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)

Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

I know Northern Tools have some, but maybe not exactly what you want. 

Perhaps you could reengineer some aspects?

http://www.northerntool.com  search for "trailer blueprints"



-- 

Rex Hefferan

SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs



wingnut wrote:



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Sounds like building is the way to go then. I happen to already own a MIG welder, chop saw and angle grinder so I had thought that building would be a no-brainer. But when I saw this $200 bolt together trailer it got me wondering. 



Anyone happen to know where I can get plans for a suitable trailer?



	
Anybody who can build a Kitfox can build a trailer. I bought a Mig welder, gas bottle, chop saw and an angle grinder, plus all the steel, wheels, axles, etc. to build my first trailer for less than $1000. I never welded before, after a few evenings reading and practicing got where I can make decent 

welds. [/quote]



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Luis Rodriguez

Model IV 1200

Rotax 912UL

Flying Weekly

Laurens, SC (34A)

  




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N740GP - M2/582
Colorado

Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

Wing Nut asked

 	  Quote: 	
		  Anyone happen to know where I can get plans for a suitable trailer? 	




Luis, here's a direct link to all kinds of kitfox trailer information on the Sportflight.com web site.



http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=Trailers/Towing

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Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Average Kitfox is a little more than half the capacity of the trailer.   The tow arm would have to be extended to tow backwards.  I don’t think that trailer can be modified for forward towing... At least not without a stinger to carry the tail of the plane.  

   

   

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Noel Loveys  

Campbellton, NL, Canada  

CDN AME intern, PP-Rec  

C-FINB, Kitfox III-A  

582 B box, Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats  

[url=noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca]noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca[/url]  

   

   

     

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes

 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:25 AM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: Trailering my Kitfox  

  

     

Luis,  

    

   

    

I'd be concerned about its load capacity. Also, IMHO those little bitty wheels might prove problematic for anything but very short trips on very smooth roads.  

    



 

 wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com> wrote:  

   	  Quote: 	
		    

--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" 

 

 Has anyone ever looked at this trailer from northern tools?:

 

 http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_465468_465468

 

 At $200, I can't buy the parts to build a trailer for less. I wondered about the feasibility of converting this trailer for towing a Kitfox.

 

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 Luis Rodriguez

 Model IV 1200

 Rotax 912UL

 Flying Weekly

 Laurens, SC (34A)

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Just my opinion, but I would try to find a boat trailer and remodel it rather than the one you are looking at.  I'll try to post a couple of pictures of the trailer I got when I bought my Avid B.  I hauled it home (about 300 miles)  and last winter when I bought my Avid MK IV, I went out to Michigan and hauled it back home (about 550 miles) on the same trailer.  Worked for me.  Jim Chuk   Avid B, MK IV  Chisholm,  Mn

 	  Quote: 	
		   Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

 From: wingnut(at)spamarrest.com

 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:16:09 -0800

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: 'wingnut' <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>

 Thanks to all for the helpful responses. I see that the over all length would need to be increased. 

 As for the width, I don't have a problem with adding supports to capture the main wheels but would the axle really need to be lengthened? Is it a question of the trailer being prone to rolling over? What's a good length for the axles? 

 As for the load capacity, I thought 1000 pounds would be just right? The airplane only weighs 650 lbs empty and I thought that matching the trailer capacity to the airplane weight would provide the smoothest ride...

 Also, I guess I should mention that this would be for short hauls to get the airplane to and from the local airport on those occasions when the winds are not favorable for landing at the short strip at my farm.

 > I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on.ï¿½ Itâ€™s way too small for the Kitfox.ï¿½ It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, but the deck frame is only 4â€™ wide by 8â€™ long, and maximum load is 1000 pounds.ï¿½ It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck frame, lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, lengthen the trailer reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it. 

 > 

 --------

 Luis Rodriguez

 Model IV 1200

 Rotax 912UL

 Flying Weekly

 Laurens, SC (34A)

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Two problems here... Tires are not certified for use on public roads and the main gear doesn't have shock absorbers so the plane can bounce a bit if you hit a pot hole.



Noel



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Kitfox III-A
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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

A double ski-Doo trailer works well too.Â  Just extend the tow arm.  

   

Noel  

       

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy Chuk

 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:50 PM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Re: Trailering my Kitfox  

  

  

   

Just my opinion, but I would try to find a boat trailer and remodel it rather than the one you are looking at.  I'll try to post a couple of pictures of the trailer I got when I bought my Avid B.  I hauled it home (about 300 miles)  and last winter when I bought my Avid MK IV, I went out to Michigan and hauled it back home (about 550 miles) on the same trailer.  Worked for me.  Jim Chuk   Avid B, MK IV  Chisholm,  Mn

 

 > Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

 > From: wingnut(at)spamarrest.com

 > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:16:09 -0800

 > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 > 

 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: 'wingnut' <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>

 > 

 > Thanks to all for the helpful responses. I see that the over all length would need to be increased. 

 > 

 > As for the width, I don't have a problem with adding supports to capture the main wheels but would the axle really need to be lengthened? Is it a question of the trailer being prone to rolling over? What's a good length for the axles? 

 > 

 > As for the load capacity, I thought 1000 pounds would be just right? The airplane only weighs 650 lbs empty and I thought that matching the trailer capacity to the airplane weight would provide the smoothest ride...

 > 

 > Also, I guess I should mention that this would be for short hauls to get the airplane to and from the local airport on those occasions when the winds are not favorable for landing at the short strip at my farm.

 > 

 > 

 > > I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on.Ã¯Â¿Â½ ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s way too small for the Kitfox.Ã¯Â¿Â½ It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, but the deck frame is only 4Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ wide by 8Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ long, and maximum load is 1000 pounds.Ã¯Â¿Â½ It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck frame, lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, lengthen the trailer reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it. 

 > > 

 > 

 > 

 > --------

 > Luis Rodriguez

 > Model IV 1200

 > Rotax 912UL

 > Flying Weekly

 > Laurens, SC (34A)

 > 

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 > Read this topic online here:

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 > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168253#168253

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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: Trailering my Kitfox

Noel Loveys wrote:

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 A double ski-Doo trailer works well too.  Just extend the tow arm.



  



 Noel



  



 *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com 

 [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of 

 *Jim_and_Lucy Chuk

 *Sent:* Friday, March 07, 2008 11:50 PM

 *To:* kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* RE: Re: Trailering my Kitfox



  



 Just my opinion, but I would try to find a boat trailer and remodel it 

 rather than the one you are looking at.  I'll try to post a couple of 

 pictures of the trailer I got when I bought my Avid B.  I hauled it 

 home (about 300 miles)  and last winter when I bought my Avid MK IV, I 

 went out to Michigan and hauled it back home (about 550 miles) on the 

 same trailer.  Worked for me.  Jim Chuk   Avid B, MK IV  Chisholm,  Mn



 > Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox

 > From: wingnut(at)spamarrest.com

 > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:16:09 -0800

 > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 >

 > 

 >

 > Thanks to all for the helpful responses. I see that the over all 

 length would need to be increased.

 >

 > As for the width, I don't have a problem with adding supports to 

 capture the main wheels but would the axle really need to be 

 lengthened? Is it a question of the trailer being prone to rolling 

 over? What's a good length for the axles?

 >

 > As for the load capacity, I thought 1000 pounds would be just right? 

 The airplane only weighs 650 lbs empty and I thought that matching the 

 trailer capacity to the airplane weight would provide the smoothest 

 ride...

 >

 > Also, I guess I should mention that this would be for short hauls to 

 get the airplane to and from the local airport on those occasions when 

 the winds are not favorable for landing at the short strip at my farm.

 >

 >

 > > I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on.Ã¯Â¿Â½ ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s way 

 too small for the Kitfox.Ã¯Â¿Â½ It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, 

 but the deck frame is only 4Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ wide by 8Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ long, and maximum load is 

 1000 pounds.Ã¯Â¿Â½ It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck 

 frame, lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, 

 lengthen the trailer reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it.

 > >

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 > Luis Rodriguez

 > Model IV 1200

 > Rotax 912UL

 > Flying Weekly

 > Laurens, SC (34A)

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 >

 > Read this topic online here:

 >

 > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168253#168253

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Hi Kitfox Family..I took every one advice and ,Just finishing my 
	


trailer.I took a boat trailer and converted it to carry all most any 

tail dragger.on back wards..and all so.I can carry trike wheel aircraft 

on front wards,,it can even carry all most any CESSNA single engine,,the 

trailer is app 30ft.and the toung can come apart to fit in a single car 

garage.all so the rear platform where the front tires sit.can be made 

wider to fit all most any TW plane,by just pulling pins.and the darn 

thing will fit in your 8X24ft garage.this is a protype trailer.I 

thinking about mass producing these at a trailer company.to sell on the 

market..the trailer even has wing racks to carry wings..what does  evey 

one think about it??any body interested in one??I will have it on 

display at the Great Lakes Kitfox Fly In..May 11th at CQA  Lake Field 

Air Port ,Celina Ohio.if any one wants to take a better look..Steve 

Shinabery N554KF  KF2

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