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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

I'm nearing completion of my flight training and I still need to do a night cross country. Only problem is that my model 4 does not have landing lights. I've read that some people are installing landing lights in the cowling. Anyone have details or picture? Is there an easier way to do this?

clint_bazzill(at)hotmail.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Check out my landing light and you can call me about light from J.C. Whitney



Clint (650) 712-1802



http://www.msnusers.com/KitfoxLandingLight/shoebox.msnw

From: "wingnut" <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>

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Subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Date: Tue,  4 Apr 2006 15:18:33 -0700






I'm nearing completion of my flight training and I still need to do a night 

cross country. Only problem is that my model 4 does not have landing lights. 

I've read that some people are installing landing lights in the cowling. 

Anyone have details or picture? Is there an easier way to do this?





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mike
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

On my fox, the rotax only has 18amps for the charging system.  I do have the wing tip set up for a landing light, but took it out because it took too much amps. The landing light could put you over.  I never worry about the light. In fact when I went through training, the light never worked on the 172 I flew, so I got along without it.  Now days I land all the time without it and do just fine.  You sure learn to atripulate the runway between the runway lights.

mike
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Oh, and when I want to see where I'm going on the ground I turn my strobes back on, I got the strongest whellon system and they shine up everything on the ground.

mike
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

I suppose you can always go and get one of those spot lights and plug it into the accessory, open the door and shine it down at the runway, or better yet take a passenger and let them do it. Ha ha.

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Hey that's fantastic. Very smart looking setup. Thanks.



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Check out my landing light and you can call me about light from J.C. Whitney 



Clint (650) 712-1802 



http://www.msnusers.com/KitfoxLandingLight/shoebox.msnw

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Hmm. Didn't occur to me that the stock Rotax setup wouldn't have enough juice. Does it hurt the alternator if you go a little over budget on the amps or will it just draw from the battery?



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		  On my fox, the rotax only has 18amps for the charging system. I do have the wing tip set up for a landing light, but took it out because it took too much amps. The landing light could put you over.

pulsair(at)mindspring.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Clint,

How has the light held up? Jeff

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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

A friend of mine ran the battery on a C-182 dead in

flight by having all the lights, bells and whistles on

in the touch and go pattern.  He had to land by light

signals and run up the battery again before the radio

would work for taxi back.



You will probably be running off the battery for

descent and landing with the light on, but turning it

off after takeoff will allow a recharge, if you keep

the average amps + , or you'll need a backup battery

or hand held radio.



Running the battery down is not a good thing to do

with electronic ignition.



Kurt S.



--- wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com> wrote:



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		   Hmm. Didn't occur to me that the stock Rotax setup

 wouldn't have enough juice. Does it hurt the

 alternator if you go a little over budget on the

 amps or will it just draw from the battery?

Bill Willyard

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 34
Location: Grandville, Michigan U.S.A.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:22 am Post subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

I have found that I can land better at night by turning the landing light off. It may be use full for taxi operations. I used an automotive light assembly because it was smaller and required less power to operate. As a result it is does not have the output or deflection angle of a true aircraft landing light. This is the compromise that I felt was necessary when building. Even with its reduced power requirements it still exceeds what my Rotax 912 can handle. 

 

Bill W.

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morid(at)northland.lib.mi
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:53 am Post subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Very nice Clint.  I've always wondered about landing lights that are

connected directly to the engine.  Do you have any problems with light bulbs

burning out due vibration?  Do you have a part number for it?

Deke



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 Check out my landing light and you can call me about light from J.C.

Whitney
	


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 Clint (650) 712-1802



 http://www.msnusers.com/KitfoxLandingLight/shoebox.msnw

 From: "wingnut" <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>

 Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

 Date: Tue,  4 Apr 2006 15:18:33 -0700



 



 I'm nearing completion of my flight training and I still need to do a

night
	


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		   cross country. Only problem is that my model 4 does not have landing

lights.
	


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		   I've read that some people are installing landing lights in the cowling.

 Anyone have details or picture? Is there an easier way to do this?





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26484#26484

clint_bazzill(at)hotmail.
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

The very small driving light from J.C. Whitney has two screws on each side.  

It is safety wired and double insulated from the oil cooler. It uses one 

quartz halagan 57w bulb.  I was worried about vibration and breaking the 

filament but been on there for over 500 hours.  Clint

From: "jeff puls" <pulsair(at)mindspring.com>

Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: Landing Lights on a Model 4?

Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:10:21 -0700






Clint,

How has the light held up? Jeff

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