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rehn(at)rockisland.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: Fuel pumps 914

Here’s a photo of the series recommended Rotax fuel pump setup using manifolds. They had this at the Rotax maintenance class I attended in Canada.  Nice and clean. These manifolds and this setup were designed for use in certified 914s. I was going to buy the manifolds until I found out they had “precious certified” costs as well. I went to McMasters and Aircraft Spruce and found “off the shelf” manifolds that worked for much less. Thanks to Dan Bish A144 for digging these out. He also has a photo in the Europa build gallery on this setup.  

Jerry

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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: Fuel pumps 914

Hi! Jerry.  

The one way/non return valves (vis:- Europa designed system) are conspicuous by their absence.  

What say you about this?..........I guess anything can look really tidy if some of the kit is missed out?  

Regards  

Bob Harrison (G-PTAG)  

         

  

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Rehn

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Here’s a photo of the series recommended Rotax fuel pump setup using manifolds. They had this at the Rotax maintenance class I attended in Canada.  Nice and clean. These manifolds and this setup were designed for use in certified 914s. I was going to buy the manifolds until I found out they had “precious certified” costs as well. I went to McMasters and Aircraft Spruce and found “off the shelf” manifolds that worked for much less. Thanks to Dan Bish A144 for digging these out. He also has a photo in the Europa build gallery on this setup.  

Jerry  

   

   

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rparigoris

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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Fuel pumps 914

Hi Jerry



I am a firm believer that Europa has the right idea with their latest 914 fuel system layout where pump number two has a seperate feed from a second fuel filter or gasculator.



The fuel layout you posted does not have a second feed.



Here is a clearer layout of Europas schematic, I substituted two Andiar 375 gasculators instead of supplied filters. The momentary three filters were just that, momentary so I didn't put any debris into 5 gallons of borrower 100LL.



http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=80869

Ron Parigoris

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rehn(at)rockisland.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: Fuel pumps 914

The check valves are there they are the small silver guys. They also are a very expensive certified Katana part. I think this layout meets the Rotax series requirement but obviously doesn't show the filter which is also asked for. 

Jerry



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On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:58 PM, "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk (ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk)> wrote:



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Hi! Jerry.  

The one way/non return valves (vis:- Europa designed system) are conspicuous by their absence.  

What say you about this?..........I guess anything can look really tidy if some of the kit is missed out?  

Regards  

Bob Harrison (G-PTAG)  

         

  

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Jerry Rehn

 Sent: 07 September 2010 22:52

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Europa-List: Fuel pumps 914  

  

   

Here’s a photo of the series recommended Rotax fuel pump setup using manifolds. They had this at the Rotax maintenance class I attended in Canada.  Nice and clean. These manifolds and this setup were designed for use in certified 914s. I was going to buy the manifolds until I found out they had “precious certified” costs as well. I went to McMasters and Aircraft Spruce and found “off the shelf” manifolds that worked for much less. Thanks to Dan Bish A144 for digging these out. He also has a photo in the Europa build gallery on this setup.  

Jerry  

   

   

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rehn(at)rockisland.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: Fuel pumps 914

Yeah, it sure has more safety built into the system, maybe rotax will suggest that someday.They were probably addressing the pressure issues and the fuel pumps built in check valve not 100 percent failure proof when they went to the series and check valves system.

Anyway the manifolds are pretty!

Jerry



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On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:17 AM, "rparigoris" <rparigor(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote:



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 Hi Jerry

 

 I am a firm believer that Europa has the right idea with their latest 914 fuel system layout where pump number two has a seperate feed from a second fuel filter or gasculator.

 

 The fuel layout you posted does not have a second feed.

 

 Here is a clearer layout of Europas schematic, I substituted two Andiar 375 gasculators instead of supplied filters. The momentary three filters were just that, momentary so I didn't put any debris into 5 gallons of borrower 100LL.

 

 http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=80869

 

 

 Ron Parigoris

 

 

 

 

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