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thornytoo1(at)hughes.net
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:48 am Post subject: engine choices

Gary,

 

This is my first post and I am a relatively new user, so I am probably asking for information that is old hat to some!  I have a 1977 Tiger that needs complete restoration.  I understand you have started a IO-360, ported and polished, project.  How is that coming along?  Are there any 200 HP engines available that do NOT have angle valves?  When I spoke to the True Flight representative at Oshkosh, he mentioned that the factory was doing a 200 HP STC  for the Tiger.  Has anyone else heard this and how is that STC coming along?  If I have to do an engine swap on my Tiger, I want to get a clear picture of what my engine choices are!!  Thanks for any info you can provide!

 

Ken

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:19 am Post subject: engine choices

Hi Ken,

There are several 200 hp Cheetahs/Tigers out there.  The STC for one of the installations is somewhere.  Bob Steward has more knowledge of that than I do.

That said, I wouldn't do a 200 hp installation.  The engine is 40 lbs heavier.  The engine mount needs to be changed.  You need new baffles.  The airbox is changed. and, well, let Bob tell you what he experienced.  

A ported and polished O360 will make 205 to 215 hp.  The engine I put in N9186M made 219 hp on the LyCon dyno.  

My engine is nearly ready to install.  I'm just waiting for it.  The plane is getting a restoration, cabin forward, and that may take a while.  I will be using an IO360-B1G6.  It's counter-weighted so I can use a 2-blade Hartzell prop.  

If you are on Facebook, find AuCountry Aviation and "Like" the page.  You'll see a lot of pics of a lot of things I'm doing for Tigers and Cheetahs.

Gary

        From: Patricia Kirkpatrick <thornytoo1(at)hughes.net>

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 Gary,

  

This is my first post and I am a relatively new user, so I am probably asking for information that is old hat to some!  I have a 1977 Tiger that needs complete restoration.  I understand you have started a IO-360, ported and polished, project.  How is that coming along?  Are there any 200 HP engines available that do NOT have angle valves?  When I spoke to the True Flight representative at Oshkosh, he mentioned that the factory was doing a 200 HP STC  for the Tiger.  Has anyone else heard this and how is that STC coming along?  If I have to do an engine swap on my Tiger, I want to get a clear picture of what my engine choices are!!  Thanks for any info you can provide!

  

Ken



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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: engine choices

Gary,

 

Is there an STC out there that allows installation of the IO360-B1G6 or will you have to go thru the STC process once you get the engine ready?  

 

Ken

 

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:19 PM

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Subject: Re: engine choices

 

Hi Ken,



 



There are several 200 hp Cheetahs/Tigers out there.  The STC for one of the installations is somewhere.  Bob Steward has more knowledge of that than I do.



 



That said, I wouldn't do a 200 hp installation.  The engine is 40 lbs heavier.  The engine mount needs to be changed.  You need new baffles.  The airbox is changed. and, well, let Bob tell you what he experienced.  



 



A ported and polished O360 will make 205 to 215 hp.  The engine I put in N9186M made 219 hp on the LyCon dyno.  



 



My engine is nearly ready to install.  I'm just waiting for it.  The plane is getting a restoration, cabin forward, and that may take a while.  I will be using an IO360-B1G6.  It's counter-weighted so I can use a 2-blade Hartzell prop.  



 



If you are on Facebook, find AuCountry Aviation and "Like" the page.  You'll see a lot of pics of a lot of things I'm doing for Tigers and Cheetahs.



 



Gary



 

From: Patricia Kirkpatrick <thornytoo1(at)hughes.net (thornytoo1(at)hughes.net)>

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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:48 AM

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Gary,



 



This is my first post and I am a relatively new user, so I am probably asking for information that is old hat to some!  I have a 1977 Tiger that needs complete restoration.  I understand you have started a IO-360, ported and polished, project.  How is that coming along?  Are there any 200 HP engines available that do NOT have angle valves?  When I spoke to the True Flight representative at Oshkosh, he mentioned that the factory was doing a 200 HP STC  for the Tiger.  Has anyone else heard this and how is that STC coming along?  If I have to do an engine swap on my Tiger, I want to get a clear picture of what my engine choices are!!  Thanks for any info you can provide!



 



Ken





 

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: engine choices

I'm developing the STC.  Want to start a list?  Deposits would surely make it go faster.

        From: Patricia Kirkpatrick <thornytoo1(at)hughes.net>

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 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:37 AM

 Subject: RE: engine choices

Gary,

Is there an STC out there that allows installation of the IO360-B1G6 or will you have to go thru the STC process once you get the engine ready?  

Ken

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:19 PM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: engine choices

Hi Ken,

There are several 200 hp Cheetahs/Tigers out there.  The STC for one of the installations is somewhere.  Bob Steward has more knowledge of that than I do.

That said, I wouldn't do a 200 hp installation.  The engine is 40 lbs heavier.  The engine mount needs to be changed.  You need new baffles.  The airbox is changed. and, well, let Bob tell you what he experienced.  

A ported and polished O360 will make 205 to 215 hp.  The engine I put in N9186M made 219 hp on the LyCon dyno.  

My engine is nearly ready to install.  I'm just waiting for it.  The plane is getting a restoration, cabin forward, and that may take a while.  I will be using an IO360-B1G6.  It's counter-weighted so I can use a 2-blade Hartzell prop.  

If you are on Facebook, find AuCountry Aviation and "Like" the page.  You'll see a lot of pics of a lot of things I'm doing for Tigers and Cheetahs.

Gary

From: Patricia Kirkpatrick <thornytoo1(at)hughes.net (thornytoo1(at)hughes.net)>

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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:48 AM

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Gary,

This is my first post and I am a relatively new user, so I am probably asking for information that is old hat to some!  I have a 1977 Tiger that needs complete restoration.  I understand you have started a IO-360, ported and polished, project.  How is that coming along?  Are there any 200 HP engines available that do NOT have angle valves?  When I spoke to the True Flight representative at Oshkosh, he mentioned that the factory was doing a 200 HP STC  for the Tiger.  Has anyone else heard this and how is that STC coming along?  If I have to do an engine swap on my  Tiger, I want to get a clear picture of what my engine choices are!!  Thanks for any info you can provide!

Ken

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