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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Gents-



Along the vein of autopilots-  this is information that might interest some

of you.



As you know- we've been conducting a very thorough rehab on N414C a 685

commander.



When we were making the decision to conduct this rehab, we engaged a few

autopilot manufacturers about modifying their STCs to include the 685

because it is unfortunately common that they leave the 685 off their

paperwork when filing the data for their STCs.



S-TEC was our first choice- and they were extraordinarily unhelpful and

uninterested.  (Weeks/Months to return phone calls, etc...)



We wound up talking to Chelton Aviation about their AP-3C since they were

aggressively filing STCs for a broad range of aircraft.  Chelton was eager

to amend their STC and obtained a project number and provided all the

engineering data for the installation.



About a month before certification/data collection, two principles at

Chelton were killed in an accident, and as a result Chelton Aviation was

absorbed by it's sister company Wulfsberg.  Wulfsberg is not as openly

interested in this STC as Chelton was- but they are supporting us through

the STC process with a DAS.  (DAS not selected yet... But we are close.)



Apparently before the accident, Chelton was eagerly looking to expand their

STC to cover the whole range of commanders- which would have been a boon to

all of us.



If there is sufficient interest in the AP-3C by other commander owners-

please let me know- as it will help the DAS facilities to hear that they

have a chance to recoup some costs on this STC.



If anyone has any interest in learning more- let me know.



As always- it's a learning experience when you try to put new avionics in an

old (but good!) airplane!



Robert Randazzo

 



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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Gents-



Oh- I violated prime directive #5541:  "Don't talk in Jargon."



DAS = "Designated Alternation Station.  They are designated alternates to

your local FISDO/MIDO and have been given authority by the FAA to approve

STCs.

It's also worth mentioning that we removed 180lbs (appx) of autopilot stuff

from the 685.... And the AP-3C replacing it weights 13.5lbs when fully

installed...



Net gain:  166lbs, or both our dogs and the baby that arrives in September,

or :30 more cruise fuel, or another 100nm in range...depending on how you

want to measure it.  



Do not archive



Rob 



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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

I'd be very interested. Is there a contact at chelton I should be

talking to?



           Bruce 



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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Bruce-



Nobody at Chelton, currently... Let me talk to the DAS rep that we are

currently working with and see if he'd like ot hear from you.  (I'm hoping

that they see the value in issueing an STC covering the entire range of

commanders- thus giving all of us a new option for avionics...)



What type Commander do you have?



Robert 



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brcamp(at)windows.microso
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

520, s/n 93.



         Bruce Campbell



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WINGFLYER1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

I fly a 680 and would be interested in an approved auto-pilot ( up dated version) Gil

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

I think the old Lear L-2 auto pilot was available for 520.

  

 Bill Leff

kamala(at)msn.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  bl, I think century flight systems has an stc on some of there systems or  can add the 520 as they did on my 680fp. mason

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kamala(at)msn.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  gil   contact century flight systems   the 2000 that  commander aero put in my 680fp is great. mason

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WINGFLYER1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Mason, Thank you for responding.. I had talked with Auto-Pilot Central and  they stated that only an old Lear or Early model Brittan was approved for the  680, however, that was about three years ago. I will give Century a call and see  what I can find out. I have had some work performed on my 680 and should get it  out of the shop on Wqensday and can't waite to fly. I only have about 15 hours  but looking to put more real soon. Again thanks for the advice.  Gil

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

520 is not listed on any of the Century auto pilot STC's. The  only models listed are flat nacelle aircraft.

  

 Bill Leff

aquadiver99(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

What STC's are listed for the 500B?



--- BillLeff1(at)aol.com wrote:



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		   520 is not listed on any of the Century auto pilot

 STC's. The  only models 

 listed are flat nacelle aircraft.

  

 Bill Leff 

 


	




Donnie Rose

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avtec2(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

I Have every part you need fot a 680 I think

 Harry

 321 267-3141

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WINGFLYER1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Harry, Do you have a complete auto pilot system? If so what kind and how0 much?Thanks Gil

avtec2(at)bellsouth.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Yes A Britton B-3 and it came out of a 680 ( I have Two )

 one was overhauled about a year and haft ago.

 Complete ( Boxes Servo's connectors

 Harry

 $ 750 for all including shipping to you.

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WINGFLYER1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Harry, I am not familliar with the Brittian B-3. Can you tell me if it0is0 three axis , coupled or what its capable of doing. Thanks0 Gil

avtec2(at)bellsouth.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: Autopilots: Some news...

Yes has alt hold, Connects to the nav / localizer and glige0 slope.

  

 Call me and i will tell you about the autopilots

 Harry

 321 267-3141

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